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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: Francesc (IP Logged)
Date: 01 March, 2010 12:27

Yep, it seems, and it's a high downforce rear wing so we probably won't see it again till Melbourne

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 01 March, 2010 12:38

I have been reading about some of the theory of a blown wing. No-one outside of F1 knows for sure how it works. There is some speculation that by stalling the wing it will allow a high downforce rear wing to be use on low downforce circuits by reducing drag at high speed. It seems a bit like getting something for nothing from physics to me.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: Bond (IP Logged)
Date: 02 March, 2010 13:28

Nice thread mates. You don't get this kind of detailed analysis on that other soft drink board.

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2010 09:19

Well the 2010 F1 season begins in earnest for me today, under 7 days to go now before the the first green light of the season at the end of the pit lane lightS up.

I would think our boys and the equipment should be shipping out this weekend, with a couple of FW32 onboard.

Good Luck Williams, Ruby, and Hulk, in the 2010 F1 GP racing season.

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2010 09:27

Quote:
gpl
Well the 2010 F1 season begins in earnest for me today, under 7 days to go now before the the first green light of the season at the end of the pit lane lightS up.
I would think our boys and the equipment should be shipping out this weekend, with a couple of FW32 onboard.

Good Luck Williams, Ruby, and Hulk, in the 2010 F1 GP racing season.

+1

Good post thumbs down



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2010 14:58

Good reminder! That had completely slipped my mind. I still thought it was 2 weeks away, somewhere in the back of my absent mind.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: F1R (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2010 15:14

Feeling very optimistic for next week – DNF’s aplenty and an upset on the cards...

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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: Mr. Pink (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2010 15:48

I think it's time for the "Official optimism thread" to be started. (Sm100)

pgj?



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: F1R (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2010 15:56

Hell yeah!

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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2010 16:17

Quote:
Mr. Pink
I think it's time for the "Official optimism thread" to be started. (Sm100)
pgj?

Oh YES! Always on race weekend.

I can hardly wait!



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: Lord Snooty (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2010 23:41

Quote:
gpl
Well the 2010 F1 season begins in earnest for me today, under 7 days to go now before the the first green light of the season at the end of the pit lane lightS up.
I would think our boys and the equipment should be shipping out this weekend, with a couple of FW32 onboard.

Good Luck Williams, Ruby, and Hulk, in the 2010 F1 GP racing season.

Seconded (or thirded)

Good luck to the team and keep the faith to all the optimists

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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: Mansell`s flying wheelnut (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2010 23:48

I`m an eternal optimist anyway, but I dont think I have looked forward to the start of a season so much since the early 90s.

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 06 March, 2010 09:04

I am not getting over confident , all am basing my opion on is what the team and drivers are saying, which is the car is good, which inturn is differant from what we have heard in the past 5 seasons , when we have got to this stage just before the first race , and we have still been hearing things like WE NEED A BIT MORE BALANCE AND WE NEED MORE SPEED , AND WE NEED MORE DEVELOPMENT,NEED, NEED, NEED.
So if the team and drivers are to be trusted this year , which i do because Ruby atleast is as honest as the day is long, then i think this year we could be in with a shout.

Come on boys, drive the wheels off those 32,s.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/03/2010 09:06 by gpl.

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: Bond (IP Logged)
Date: 15 March, 2010 13:54

Sorry I am a downer today but why is it we are never mentioned except on the odd occasion on any F1 technical development blog or article.

Coincides with our standing at the moment...

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: j-s (IP Logged)
Date: 15 March, 2010 17:31

Bahrain was an great example of what iffy reliability will mean to a team. Williams spend friday and saturday making sure the car didn't break down during the race. From a variety of sources, SM says:

"We had quite a few issues to sort out in the days leading up to the grand prix and it became apparent early on that we would have some fire-fighting to do in the build-up to the race to ensure we finished on Sunday," Michael explained. "Because of that, we had three or four things on the FW32 in Bahrain that we couldn't change quickly."

Frustrating. 3 Cossie cars had hydraulic/ engine problems- including Trulli right at the end of the race I think.

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 15 March, 2010 20:18

I was disappointed with yesterday, I must admit. Wiliiams were not far off the pace, and it was certainly no disaster, but 10th was not what I had hoped for by any means. The only consolation is that of all the top teams, Williams had the biggest job to do in february in developing a new engine and installing it- something which does not appear to be a very easy job to do with the Cosworth engine. At the risk of sounding like an estate agent, I think there is "a lot of potential" in the package which has yet to be exploited, and which the team know about and are already working on.

I think before we are long gone into the season, Force India- who have gone conservative with an evolution of last years car will be out-resourced and out-gunned technically by Williams. The main threat I think is Renault- but they have not been the force they were since they downsized in the 2008 off-season. Without Pat Symonds, I think on paper, Williams are still favourites for 5th even after last weekend.

Here is hoping for even more!



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 16 March, 2010 22:27

Well after reading Cosworths report after the race ,they now have lot,s of data to go through and make the CA2010 even more drivable plus Sam sorting out these 3 or 4 issues he has been spouting on about i would hope all this will add up to .7 of a second in extra pace per lap and a bit more raw pace for qualie all that the FW32 was lacking this weekend.

That should put us back in the mix, and a chance of a podium finish.

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: Damon'sFW18 (IP Logged)
Date: 16 March, 2010 22:52

Quote:
gpl
Well after reading Cosworths report after the race ,they now have lot,s of data to go through and make the CA2010 even more drivable plus Sam sorting out these 3 or 4 issues he has been spouting on about i would hope all this will add up to .7 of a second in extra pace per lap and a bit more raw pace for qualie all that the FW32 was lacking this weekend.
That should put us back in the mix, and a chance of a podium finish.
Who needs Alonso? tongue sticking out smiley

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 16 March, 2010 23:22

well, lets give it time. Its not going to all come overnight.

A more competitive points showing in Australia would do just fine.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 21:11

From Atlas forum





I don't think it's looking hopeless, even though as Rubens says, he doesn't see himself winning races in the near future.

Just thinking: if the Bahrein upgrade had worked and instead of losing 0.2sec (and therefore retaining status quo by running the Barcelona package) they would have gained 0.2 sec, by my calculations Rubens would have been 6th. Not a huge achievement but instead of being slightly slower than Renault and Force India, we would be slightly faster than them, IMHO. We would probably also have qualified slightly better, and finished slightly ahead of Jenson and Michael, who didn't look very comfortable in that car yet. Again, who knows for sure, but 0.2 could have really meant a lot.

Anyway, here's more quotes from Rubens. I think it's great that he speaks his mind and there's no other driver in the grid that brings us so much information about how his team is doing - if I'm wrong will someone please correct me... the quotes are from Brazilian site Tazio and the website has the audio of its interviews, lest someone thinks I make up these quotes, as has been suggested elsewhere...

"The race itself was like when you study a lot to get approved into a college, and then you find yourself in a different situation then you thought you would... at the start, I pushed every button that I could push, but there was a problem that I reported to the team: my brakes were locking a bit excessively in the back, they were warming up only in the back. So I had to be very careful at the start of the race and even lost a position to Liuzzi."

"Williams did not make a dud of a car. It wasn't a case where the car is born with problems. The car is not a bad car, but it has problems in some areas that can be addressed".

"It's no time for excuses. That's the truth. The car is not very competitive right now, the four teams [Ferrari, Red Bull, McLaren, Mercedes] are ahead of us, we also have Force India there, and Renault there, and I need to put myself in this situation where I can try to start 7th or 8th, and score points from 5th to 10th, in this early part [of the season]".

"I think we can score points in these first 5 races, 1-5 points per race. Besides that, we will need to be a bit lucky and we will need to qualify ahead of ourselves"

Here's the meat and potatoes:

"We are extracting a midfield performance from the car, we ended 15sec from the 4th and 5th placed car, which isn't terrible, but it's far from perfect, because we lack in traction and we have an electronics problem where changing gears is a bit slow. I don't think we're extracting all the available performance from the car. I'm sure that this traction problem can be fixed. Once we get our aerodynamics improvements and we fix our eletronics issues with the gear changes, we can have a significant improvement. But I don't know if we can get to the top at this season and I'm not even asking myself if we can, though that is ultimately the goal".

"We might surprise people on some days. I had a very atypical Friday, didn't do a lot of running because we had problems, then we found more problems on Saturday morning. And at qualifying I still qualified 11th and almost made it into the 3rd qualy [despite all problems], so I still think that from time to time, Williams can surprise people".

There you have it. A very driven, very focused driver who knows what he's doing, knows what goes on with the car, knows what can be improved and who can clearly help Williams get back to the top. Count me in as a Barrica fan

Also to Cosworth, they clearly have created a very competitive engine that has power, reliability and consumption seems OK too

Thankyou.

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