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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: MansellsMoustache (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 16:28

It's only fair to mention that there have been days since where winning was realistic, like Monaco '06 and Singapore last year.

I think Sam even thought we might have won with Webber in Australia 2006, I seem to remember.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: WILLIAMS-F1-Fan (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 16:33

If Williams can get some extra cash... they could do what Renault did to Benetton... they completely caught the big 3 in 2003, and by 2004 they were a top 3 team till 2007...

I'd say it could be 3-4 seasons till we're back up there... unless the rules changes dramatically yet again.

But I hope we can get our dream team rolling and controlling the world of F1 sooner than that.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: Francesc (IP Logged)
Date: 27 March, 2010 09:42

Williams targets China debut for own F-duct

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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: gabal (IP Logged)
Date: 27 March, 2010 11:59

Interesting - I can't wait to see it.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 31 March, 2010 10:39

Just a thought here. The much reported gear-shift problem - most gear-shifts are powered by hydraulics these days. Sorry to mention the 'H' word.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: Francesc (IP Logged)
Date: 10 May, 2010 20:24

New diffuser with bigger 2nd outlet
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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 11 May, 2010 10:39

Two points from Spain - Not good enough: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83517



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2010 09:17

There have been pages and pages of comment on this board alone about the FW32. Some of it is well considered comment, much of it is rubbish, to put it politely.

As soon as we announced that we were changing our engine, I posted that we should not expect too much from the FW32. Traditionally, Williams does not usually perform well in the season after an engine change. Unfortunately, that seems to be the case this time around too. There is still time to turn the FW32 into a more competitive car. The problem is that each time a performance improvement is promised, we get conflicting reports regarding the effectiveness of the latest development. It may be that there is a combination of updates that will amount to a significant performance improvement. I see no signs of it atm, but it could happen.

My overall assessment of the package has not changed. It is clearly struggling. We get the usual comments, most with a magic bullet one problem solution. Do this or change the engine or sack the tea boy and everything will be ok. It is far more involved than that. It has not been too long ago that Renault got themselves into a development tangle and could not make its package work. But with the same engine and personnel, they produced a race winning car for the following season. Our problem is exacerbated by the slump that we have had over the past too long. Taking into account Williams' track record after an engine change, changing engines three times in around seven years does not help. I cannot promise that things will be any better with the FW33 either. By the same measure, no-one can say for certain that the FW33 will not be significantly better than the FW32 either.

In the absence of facts, I do not go in for apportioning blame. Many times I have posted that I do believe that things have become stale at Grove and I welcomed the idea of new ideas being introduced into the development and production processes there. Even doing the same task in a different way can spark off a new train of thought.

Many of the frustrations that are expressed here are well understood, even if the method of expression is reactionary and disrespectful. Everyone wants to have a competitive car to take racing. We have had a change of CEO for this year with Alex taking over from Adam. Some feel that the problem lies with Alex and his working relationship with Sam. With Alex not being critical enough of Sam's performance. I do not know. There are almost as many solutions offered as there are posters here.

In years past, there have been times when development has been slow. However, it was nearly always possible to see areas of improvement as the season progressed. Sometimes the car has been improved in one area at the expense of performance in other areas of the car. At least it was possible to pick out areas of development as the team struggled. Right now, I do not see where the car is being improved and that makes me as frustrated as anyone else.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: gpl (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2010 12:07

(Sm128)

The basic design of this car is all wrong it just about becomes competitive when the fuel tanks are half emptey,but by that point in a race we are almost a lap behind
But even when the tanks are empty in qualie the car has got worse these last racee.

The TD department have got all the numbers wrong with the 32.
YET AGAIN NEW UPDATES WHERE BROUGHT TO THE CAR , AND NOTHING

I JUST THINK THE WHOLE FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN OF THE 32 IS WRONG

Time for change please, these people in the TD department are not good enough to design a competitive F1 car, last years car was average, and we could of pinched a podium or 2, but that is 1 half decent car in the last 6 years with these guys.

I think they should think about joining a lower form of motor racing, because they are not good enough for F1.

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: mayhemfunkster (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2010 12:30

What is our wheelbase in relation to our competitors? It seems quite short, but that is only my perception. It might not be a golden bullet, but I wonder if a difference in wheelbase may point to the 32 being a flawed concept, rather than just a car with some distinct problems

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2010 12:33

There was talk before the launch that the FW32 was a shorter wheelbase car than most of the others. I have not seen any figures though.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: CLOVERLEAF 888 (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2010 12:34

So sm says we lost a tenth of a second every lap because we used the old front wing. Wow that means if we had used them we would have been approx 7 seconds further up the road at the end of the grand prix.

Is that it? did someone at grove , shout eureka when they found out the new wing was a tenth faster.. this is mad.

we should be hearing things like half a second faster. No wonder the 32 is falling behind big time. others are gaining more time from upgrades.

sm comes up with some crackers... imho, he has to go.

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2010 17:22

Williams and Mercedes were said to have the shortest wheelbases by commentators earlier this year. Mercedes have got around the chassis homologation restrictions by redesigning and remounting the front suspension. They are now ahead of Ferrari. Food for thought...



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: K1 (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2010 01:18

i think that innersanctum said it all really. no need to prattle on interminably about the minutiae when no one here really has a clue as to the what transpires within the four walls at grove.

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2010 08:40

In the absence of any real information from Sam "everything is working" Michael, we have no choice. Otherwise, we would have nothing to talk about other than how upset we all are which is not fun at all.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: mayhemfunkster (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2010 09:19

@K1, Of course you are right, but the whole point of internet forums is to allow those of us on the outside of whatever given subject to get together and argue (with varying degrees of animosity) about the subject we hold dear!

I'm trying to think of a harmonious forum and I just can't think of one at this moment!

Says more about people than anything else, I think!

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2010 09:25

If anyone sees a magic wand for sale on E-Bay buy it. We need a little divine intervention. lol!



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: patrox (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2010 11:24

what about the blown diffuser that has been mentioned somewhre in this forum? more info please!

about turkey , its a track that requires a very fine setup , maybe williams , and ferrari didnt get it right.



anyway , the level of engineering at williams has been stale compared to other teams , more money would help. a few more performances like that and i could accept a VW (or other manufacturer) buyout (Sm147)

Re: FW32 development
Posted by: pgj (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2010 12:10

Blown diffuser: http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/red-bull-exhaust-driven-diffuser/

Bolting one of these onto our car, assuming that we can make it work, is like opening a can of worms. I would feel a whole lot happier if it was being attached to a stable platform.



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Re: FW32 development
Posted by: crusty_bread (IP Logged)
Date: 03 June, 2010 12:19

Are you comparing the FW32 to a stable, pgj?



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