Martin Whitmarsh is calling for immediate rule changes, acknowledging that today's race was perhaps a little tedious...

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"Formula 1 has to be entertaining, people have to be switched on to what is going to happen in the race, if it's processional they are not going to be. Today was not the best show, we know that and we have all got to work together to improve it"

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Supporters support - fans blow hot and cold...

Good post, UG . . . as always . . and well-spotted.

Yeah right . . . even the silly tyre rules don't work if they are the same for everyone on control tyres. Daftest idea yet.

Any study of early nineties GPs will show that there was no more overtaking then. But at least the rules allowed for more engine/engineering opportunities and upsets

What do Technical Working Groups do all day?

Any ideas to make the race less boring should be tried because if any more races are like today its going to be a long boring season

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100% Williams

Yes, and it would be nice to change a lot of circuits...

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GO TEAM WILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's some ideas from drivers on their first taste of no refueling :

Michael Schumacher
"Overtaking was basically impossible unless somebody made a mistake," the German said following the race.

"That is the action we are going to have with this kind of environment of race strategy."
"The new rules with the tyres that everybody has to cope with - I struggle a little bit with those," admitted Schumacher.

"But after three years I guess it's natural you have to find your way into new bits and pieces."



Alonso :
"With no refuelling, it will be difficult to see any overtaking, so after the first lap the positions will be set,"


Hamilton :
"You start with fuel, you do one stop and it's pretty much a train all the way."

Button :
"The first lap is definitely your best chance of overtaking,"
"It might throw up a few more strategies in the race - I hope it does, because run like that every race, it's not the most exciting.

"I think I was a little bit conservative but we are all learning the new regulations."



But Prost defends the idea :
"They have got used to a sprint - in free practice, qualifying, race. And having 60kg of fuel or 10kg makes no difference," he told BBC Sport.

"When you start with 160kg you have to think differently, and they are not used to that.

"After a few races, I am sure the good drivers, the top drivers, will like it."

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Dylan's Together Through Life Hits The Stores.

I'm not against the refueling ban as I think it adds another variable to the setup.

However all the conservation BS is what killed overtaking IMO. Rev-limiters nerfing the slip-stream effect, engines that cannot be risked for future considerations and tyres that disappear as soon as you try anything funny.

I believe most of changes in recent years have resaulted in worse racing except that Slick tyres return.

V10 to V8, Engine freeze, Revs Limit, One Tyre Supplier and no Tyre rivalry and...It's still too early to have a say on refueling ban but in this race, they were all being too careful of tyres till some last laps.

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Dylan's Together Through Life Hits The Stores.

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Mehryar
It's still too early to have a say

Dunno, Mehryar.

The off-season testing was more exciting than this race. Friday practise was more interesting.

Maybe F1 should cancel the races (the circuits lose money anyway) and just have testing and scandals.

Gunk LOL!

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Dylan's Together Through Life Hits The Stores.

What is than main component of the chassis that makes it much better than the others and helps it look after tyres and also allows it to carry more speed down the straight.

That component also stops the close racing as when a car comes close to the back of another for a pass, as soon as it gets to 1 second behind it cant do anything about it as its in dirty air and the aero doesnt work anymore.

Problem with any rules changes is always the same.

The better teams will get around the changes or cope better. Doesnt matter what you do, the top teams will always be on top

Get rid of the modern cars, widen then, eliminate diffusers altogether - not just the double decked diffuser, make cars bulkier and have very very plain front and rear wings.

I think that the FIA should see...why until ...let's say..2000 the were a lot of overtaking...and not for 9th place only.

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GO TEAM WILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get rid of the modern cars, widen then, eliminate diffusers altogether - not just the double decked diffuser, make cars bulkier and have very very plain front and rear wings.

Ok and that's not f1 anymore cause a champcar can go a lap 10seconds faster.

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Dylan's Together Through Life Hits The Stores.

Just make it that the cars have to stop twice.

I get a good nap every race sunday for about an hour...

Under overtaking I understand doing it ON THE TRACK! Making more stops will lead to overtaking, but while someone is in the pits: that´s supposed to be overtaking? IMHO that´s as boring as todays race. The tracks should be modified. And of course, get rid of the diffusers...

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F1? F1?
IT´S THE 2010 WORLD CUP IN SOUTH AFRICA!!!
Way to go Ghana!!! Keep it up...

can we go back to the 80's or early 90's in terms of car design... but with today's safety?

I'd also like variety in engines, Turbos, V6, V8, V10, V12 etc...

no refueling is ok... I remember in 1993 cars were "overtakeable"

Overtaking was better back then... the ONLY overtaking I saw today was when the fast cars came up to lap the moving chicanes.

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BATracing F1 Just Got More Addicting
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Absolutely. It's stupid that a race has all the excitement when a car enters to the pits and the other one is overtaking it at the track...REALLY STUPID!!!

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GO TEAM WILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hey, gunk, ever heard about 'people who live in glass houses? there is no 's' in 'practice'. i am right on your case.

i was all geared up for an action packed, all in, all out race. what did we get, a @#$%& cat parade.

four months anticipation for what? to say that i was disappointed is a major understatement. if this continues then there will be a mass audience disatisfaction rating which BE will not enjoy.

hopefully someone, somewhere will ram through some further changes to make it more palatable and exciting.

I was also disappointed with the race. There is some merit in what Alain says. Let's give it a few races and see what happens when the first set of big upgrades arrives.

I also agree that DDD's should have been banned for 2010. Just as the McLaren invention should be banned for 2011. If we are supposed to be simplifying areo around cars with the express intention of improving the show. We should not be allowing teams to grab back down force that disrupts the car behind. Making it more difficult to overtake. If something is declared legal, then race with it for the year but tighten the regs to outlaw it for the following season. Webbo had a much better car yesterday but he could make no impression on JB.

A major problem that the FIA has is that any attempt to simplify cars will result in the 'pinnacle of motorsport' brigade accusing the FIA of dumbing-down F1.

As for more pitstops, how about banning compulsory pitstops altogether? Make cars look after their tyres.

It is a bit rich when Schumi starts talking about boring racing. He would not be saying that if he had led from lights to flag. Some of the most boring racing ever took place during the glory years of the red Barron.

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Williams and proud of it.