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Re: FW34
Orocairion (IP Logged)
06 March, 2012 20:00
For those wondering if the FW flexes, watch at 11:30

 
Re: FW34
pgj (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 10:36
Interesting that slow speed cornering is still an issue. Hope it is not symptomatic of a design flaw that stays with the car for the season.

Interesting development on the rear of the Red Bull. Wonder if we will see any similar developments on our car. It is a very clever development.



Williams and proud of it.

 
Re: FW34
K1 (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 10:58
are you referring to the RB exhausts?

 
Re: FW34
pgj (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 20:30
Yes kenji. Also the winglets that Red Bull have attached to the rear wheels. From what I can make out they are, quite legally, blowing the winglets and rear suspension components. If anyone objects I will point them in the direction of ddd's. It is a brilliant interpretation of the reg's.



Williams and proud of it.

 
Re: FW34
K1 (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 22:15
it will be interesting to see how far the RB has gone in utilising the suspension elements for downforce.

evidently this was a creation of newey's when he was at williams and subsequently it was banned.

wishbones and other main parts of the suspension all have a prescribed cross section that is designed to prevent alteration to induce aero effects. as i said, it will be interesting to see where this leads.

 
Re: FW34
drunkmunky (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 23:10
Am I crazy?
Why do I find every single Williams F1 Car so beautiful?

 
Re: FW34
pgj (IP Logged)
11 March, 2012 10:03
Quote:
drunkmunky
Am I crazy?
Why do I find every single Williams F1 Car so beautiful?

LOL!



Williams and proud of it.

 
Re: FW34
drunkmunky (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 03:41
finally a bloody angle shot of the exhaust

http://i49.servimg.com/u/f49/14/79/55/26/68157010.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7051/6961827313_f589a7664a_o.jpg



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13/03/2012 03:43 by drunkmunky.

 
Re: FW34
Mr. Pink (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 09:55
It doesn't look very sleek, does it. I am quite sure the extra opening around the exhaust was made for cooling the radiators.

From an armchair expert's point of view it doesn't look like a good solution.



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Sir Frank: "It's what we do, we love doing it. It's like oxygen, it fixes you".

 
Re: FW34
J4ck (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 11:11
You consider that to be developed as the rear of 34 (low transmission)an opening behind of rollbar would have been more penalizing

 
Re: FW34
Mikef1 (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 11:16
Quote:
J4ck
You consider that to be developed as the rear of 34 (low transmission)an opening behind of rollbar would have been more penalizing

Are you saying that the cooling outlets near the suspension were moved next to the exhausts? Because the cooling outlets near the suspension are still there. You can see them under the beam wing. But I don't understand what you are ultimately eluding to.

 
Re: FW34
J4ck (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 11:30
No! This solution (On Rb) maybe is more penalizing on 34,because would nullify the cleansing flows toward the lower edge of the rear wing. I hope that i explained myself better winking smiley

http://i40.tinypic.com/21n4fir.jpg



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 13/03/2012 11:51 by J4ck.

 
Re: FW34
Mikef1 (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 11:36
Oh yes I understand you now and interestingly, the FW33 experimented with this and Gillan clamed at the time it was to "better understand cooling for next years car" so I think you have it pretty spot on. Williams' philosophy is to clear as much space ahead of the rear wing and that huge hole in the back of the car kinda ruins that effect I think :p

 
Re: FW34
Mikef1 (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 11:45
The Hungarian race comes next. Are you expecting more performance from the FW33 in hotter conditions?
SM: Yes. We have new bodywork that changes our cooling regime significantly. This is something that, as well as helping the FW33 diffuser, will also be good information for the FW34 design.

Sam Michael on this part.

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Re: FW34
Mr. Pink (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 12:43
Quote:
J4ck
You consider that to be developed as the rear of 34 (low transmission)an opening behind of rollbar would have been more penalizing

It could be and probably is, that this solution is better for us than the Red Bull one because of the low end. However, if you check the latest Redbull solution or other teams, they don't have that huge opening anymore as in your above picture.

http://www.sutton-images.com/previews/dpl1204ma120.jpg

http://www.sutton-images.com/previews/dpl1204ma116.jpg



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Sir Frank: "It's what we do, we love doing it. It's like oxygen, it fixes you".

 
Re: FW34
rrafekaj (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 16:45
Mad to catch up on this stuff.
After reading all that has happened in the last month it looks like the FW34 is a good platform to steady the ship. Nothing more, hopefully nothing less.

She looks nice too, not the prettiest face but her bum is superb.

Be interesting to see how the shape changes, i imagine there's a lot of scope for improvement as we learn about the Renault engine and our new suspension.



http://www.f1network.net/boards/file/s107.htm?110,file=5010

 
Re: FW34
J4ck (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 17:58
You know if updates are planned in Australia?

 
Re: FW34
rrafekaj (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 18:06
Note for sure but i wouldn't be surprised if a few new bits turned up. Seemed like they'd only just started to update it on the last day of the test. Maybe it was all last minute or maybe they help back on some updates....

 
Re: FW34
Anderis (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 18:15
I wouldn't expect any significant updates. From what I remember, Gillan was saying about testing the package for Australia in Barcelona.

I was also reading somewhere that Williams will rather have smaller amount of bigger updates for the car this year than the reverse. So after package of upgrades for last test, it would be strange to have another major package of upgrades for first race.

 
Re: FW34
Francesc (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 18:21
I think the next upgrades won't come until China, and it makes a lot of sense to me.

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