Re: The 'How's It Going Then, Lance'? Thread
Mehryar
01 May, 2017 18:17
Come on Crusty! You get my point or my english is so bad?!
I am with you about Massa's consistency.he's been always like that through a season.you say he is fullfitting "his" potential.I do agree with you.but does he take it to the full potential of the "car" ?! I have every reason to not believe it.He's never been able to beat his team mates on long runs, on some occasions he takes the car to the higher level or match them but most of the time he fails to do so.whether he's MS or kimi or Alonso or Bottas, on long runs he fails to perform at the top level of what the car offers.it's nothing to do with consistency.he is mostly consistent, 10% of times he is consistent at performing at top level and 90% of times he's consistent at performing lower.his performance curve is stable, but most of the time the bar is way lower than where it should be.
So I look at history, I look at where he finished to have a base other than to imagine what is his mentality.I can't believe you say he's taking all pace available when he's not challenged, not pushed.no one is there to push him for those extra 2-3 tenths.so I do believe if we had a Lewis, Bottas, Max, Vettel or Fernando in that car, it was running much much closer to Max and it was enough to cover the extra pitstop he did and save 4-6 points.
On Stroll.ok let's imagine Massa is the one from 2008, and let's even go one step ahead of your comparsion, not 10laps, for 90% he matched Fellipe...but he made 2 mistakes on 2laps.one in quali and one on opening lap.they were enough to throw away 6 points.why I should not compare him with Ocon? Our car is better than them, his experience is 2-3 races less than him if you forget is mega tests in 2014 car.but nothing of the two are comparable ATM.
I belive you, not only on this subject, but for most of the times get so lost in details, explore through reasons and finding small things that you forget the big and obvious results! Results are there, he is beaten by Fellipe in quali 4-0.the margin? It's bigger now than the first race.
Race days, he scored in a car capable of atleast 18points so far.the gaps?
I don't enjoy bashing anything related to Williams, but I have seen so many mediocre drivers come to us before that I won't do the same mistake of hopeful thinking before I see some clear results...or atleast improvements! If he starts 6tenths off on a new and street circuit and is 1second behind on 4th race on a permanent race track, it's not a good sign to me.
His excuses are somehow useless too.yes he didn't have GP2 experience but the milage he did in an f1 car in his prepration sessions, was not anything less and if you want a closer thing to 2017 cars, for sure a 2014 f1 car is more similar than a 2016 gp2 car.everybody is learning new tyres, again for a rookie a 2014 pirelli f1 compound is closer than 2016 gp2 tyre behaviours.not to mention how much he could learn about fuel loads, starts, systems, setups with that car compared to a gp2 car.