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We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
Andrew Hooper (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 04:34
"We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us" - Claire Williams

While we see statements like this I am of the view that Williams will never get anywhere near a championship. You don't hear teams like Ferrari or Red Bull come to tracks knowing that they aren't going to perform.

It seems like Williams can't produce a car that will perform at all tracks and that it has been like this for the last few years. I am not silly enough to not recognise that even the best cars have tracks where they are a small margin off the pace but for Williams it has been such a huge difference between various tracks. And this is despite having staff changes suppose to fix things.

It is so frustrating that every race this year it has been the case of questioning how will Williams do this weekend. You ask the question as to whether Williams will ever turn things around.

I have been a Williams fan for many years and this is not meant to be an attack on the team but it is just so frustrating when you look at Williams which at this point of the championship has 41 points but a team like Hass has 29, not that far behind Williams.

And this is happening in a year that is suppose to a year of celebration for the Williams team with its 40th year. For me that has been soured by the poor performance of the FW40. I wish they could stop celebrating their pit stops and start getting it right with the car so that they can celebrate podiums.

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
Albi-Quin (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 06:36
Totally agree with you Andrew. Let's hope they're working hard to sort out the problems with fixes coming out after the break.

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
forcedown (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 07:50
Sound like you're like yesterday to be williams fans. Everyone know williams going backward year by year. Keep hoping........

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
MartiniSalad (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 10:00
Agreed Andrew. The other teams have a car that can perform like usual round almost any track, yet we don't and it's unacceptable. However, you namecheck RB as a team that never say they can't perform, they've done exactly tharmt in the past at tracks like Monza, and I believe they were muttering similar pessimism at Baku this year, not knowing that they were wrong.



You can only get over your fears if you attack them head on - Mika Hakkinen

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
TMT (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 10:14
Yep 20 years is a long time for a team like Williams to have not won a championship (Sm17)

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
TMT (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 10:15
I actually can't believe it has been 20 years (Sm17)

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
gpl (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 10:21
One of these days soon now they must turn it around so many changes
we must be sorting the wheat from the chaff.

On saying that I really hope they have got the numbers right
on this new rear end.

Not really sure of the exact time we where off pole yesterday
but I think it was over 4 seconds woeful performance.

I will just say I think I spot a bit of chaff in the team and I
think it is Rob Smedley.

I don.t think he has brought anything at all to help us I do not rate him.
I could be so wrong just a feeling I have when I hear him talk just
does not give me confidence at all
It as if it is all a game to him and he just there for the ride.

Feel free to shoot me down in flames and prove me wrong
I would love to hear that he is doing a great job but show me the evidence please.
.

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
andy si (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 12:33
Agreed Andrew!

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
MartiniSalad (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 14:33
Rob's one of the weakest parts, I've always thought that. He's lucky to still be here and I think he should've stuck to being a team radio engineer.



You can only get over your fears if you attack them head on - Mika Hakkinen

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
Damon96 (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 20:19
We are a long way from being at the Mclaren / Red Bull / Ferrari / Merc end of funding - we have the budget of Force India / Renault before recent works team buyout. However look at us compared to force India, they consistently score points - they have a consistent car at each circuit - there is no excuse for us being only faster than Sauber - they have no money and a year old engine.

However on the which circuits are good / bad - Red Bull have consistently said some circuits don't suit them - the issue is how far you fall back - we've gone from just outside top six to 20th.

Mclaren are now top 10 and improving, Renault are top 10 (even with Palmer!) so where does that leave us? We have no works deal and we've got to hope daddy Stroll has deep pockets as I fear they aren't as deep as Renault or Mclaren.

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
redline (IP Logged)
31 July, 2017 04:39
as most here noted that fw40 is a low drag concept
and rb13 is another one
and this is what they thought of it

Quote:
It was well known that Red Bull went down a wrong path with its aerodynamic concept at the start of the year, as it chased a low-drag configuration in a bid to help achieve top speeds despite the power deficit that its Renault engine faced against Mercedes and Ferrari.

But having realised this approach was incorrect, and since pulling Adrian Newey back more on to the RB13 project, Red Bull has made some strong progress. Some of that has come from straightforward downforce-producing updates, but rival teams are paying particular attention to a new front wing concept.

[www.motorsport.com]

anyway, 2018 car will come with the new staff ingredients

 
Re: We knew coming into this weekend that it wasn't going to be the easiest track for us
Darron (IP Logged)
01 August, 2017 17:22
It does seem we have been hearing the same excuses for the last decade. This year is reminding me a lot of 2005 after a car update the performance slumped and they didn't seem to know why. They then started to throw more new bits at the car and then run the two cars in different configurations to see which parts were best but never seemed to get any answers.

Celebrating the 40 years of Williams does make it hit home how long they really have been away from the top - and that im getting old - half of that period. They won 50% of the constructors championships from the first in 1980 to the most recent in 1997 which also made them the most successful team, but 15 of the last 20 years they haven't won a race.


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