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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
Mr. Pink 25 February, 2018 15:49
Am I seeing huge bargeboard? Like they form a wall between tires and sidepods. It is all black so not sure if I am seeing straight.



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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
tomazy 25 February, 2018 16:00
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Mr. Pink
Am I seeing huge bargeboard? Like they form a wall between tires and sidepods. It is all black so not sure if I am seeing straight.

The bargeboards are quite small acctualy, but the blackness in that area makes it difficoult to see.

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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
tomazy 26 February, 2018 08:04
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW5go7AXUAEOE68.jpg:large

You can see the inner wall of the rear tire from the front (Sm135)

Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
Mikef1 26 February, 2018 08:32
On what photo

Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
tomazy 26 February, 2018 08:44
https://image.ibb.co/fmq50x/888.jpg

Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
williams4284 26 February, 2018 10:36
good eyes you ve got there

Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
tomazy 26 February, 2018 10:42
I think that it is safe to say, that our sidepods are unique in the paddock, not a Ferrari copy as some say.

Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
AlanJones 26 February, 2018 20:00
Wow that's an undercut right there..




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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
Mr. Pink 01 March, 2018 21:43
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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
tomazy 01 March, 2018 21:57
This looks suspiciously like aluminium gearbox to me.

Edit: the best comparison pic i could find of FW40, but it is not hi res.

https://cdn-5.motorsport.com/images/mgl/6nKdqMw0/s8/f1-spanish-gp-2017-rear-aero-and-diffuser-detail-of-felipe-massa-williams-fw40.jpg



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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
Mr. Pink 02 March, 2018 20:08
Still aluminium...

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Also, during the test Lowe confirmed the gearbox was still an aluminium casing. It was speculated in the car’s launch analysis, that the casing might have moved to a carbon outer case, but this isn’t the plan this year. Instead the aluminium case will remain for at least 2018, Lowe adding “a carbon case isn’t necessary to be competitive in F1”, while the pressures of weight saving to get down to the minimum weight limit, may be aided by the structural efficiency of carbon. An aluminium case is certainly possible to be either as light or strong as a carbon case, but not both. Its noteworthy that aluminium loses strength at higher temperatures, remembering also that the gearcase houses not only the hot gear cluster, but also the exhaust turbine for the turbocharger. Williams have had a number of inboard suspension failures over recent years, other F1 designers have speculated that they and other handling issues suffered by Williams, are attributable to the aluminium case. As Williams remain the only team to run a metal casing, with Renault being the only other team up until this year, albeit they ran a stronger titanium case.


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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
Mehryar 03 March, 2018 22:44
From Autosport.com :

It has made its sidepods shorter than everybody else, and even shorter than last year's Ferrari. The sidepods on the FW41 start where the head protection of the driver starts.

Mercedes' solutions are in evidence here too, Williams following the general trend towards the defending champion's long wheelbase.

The new Williams, which is a big step on from last year's car, has also adopted Mercedes' concept for its front wing and endplate - with the two outside opening gills in evidence.

Beneath the nose, Williams has designed its version of the Mercedes cape, which starts a bit further back compared to the original design.

The bargeboard area of the Williams is also reminiscent of the Mercedes W-floor design, with several 'fingers' helping direct airflow.

Back in 2016, now Williams technical chief Paddy Lowe who was then at Mercedes said he was surprised that few people had copied that idea such were the benefits to be had.



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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
GPL 06 March, 2018 08:58
Have you read this article on the FW41



F1 technologyPosted on | 4th March 2018, 11:45Author Will Tyson

With the Williams FW41 the team intends to reverse the gradual slide in competitiveness since its strong performance in the first year of the V6 hybrid turbo engine regulations.

Having returned to the team last year, Paddy Lowe’s technical eye has been cast over all departments in a bid to rejuvenate the team supported by former Ferrari man Dirk de Beer, who is now head of aerodynamics. The product is the Williams FW41: a car which is clearly a departure from its predecessors, yet one with a discernibly methodical approach to its wholly new design.

The FW41 “isn’t just a genesis of a new car, it’s a genesis of a new team,” in the words of chief designer Ed Wood. “Some big changes happened over the winter and during the early part of 2017,” he added, of which Lowe and De Beer were just the two most well-known.

“When Paddy came here he recognised that when we moved to the hybrid engines in 2014, the FW36 was a very strong car,” said Wood. “He could see from afar that there were actually very strong characteristics about certain aspects of that car, particularly around tyre management, and we’ve drifted away from that with successive cars until the FW40 last year.”

Lowe brings a wealth of knowledge from Mercedes but what we have here is not exactly a W08 with Martini stickers. Arguably Lowe’s key strength is on the mechanical side and while much of whatlies below the skin of the FW41 remain a secret there are already a few areas of the car reminiscent of his previous work.


The similarities start at the front of the car which features a caped nose in place of the usual turning vanes and revised upper flaps on the front wing. Williams had fallen behind with development in this region so adopting the cape is a promising move and shows signs of change. The team will now have to learn how these potentially powerful aerodynamic devices work the air over the rest of their car, with developments surely to follow as their understanding


Wood makes it clear the team expect to find a lot more downforce from their second attempt at the post-2017 rule set. “We’ve been much more aggressive on the car,” he said, “we’re opening up a lot of potential for aerodynamic development, so I’m hoping to see some good characteristics in terms of driveability, predictability, and the capability of the drivers to get a hold of a good consistent race car, with a very big uplift in overall aerodynamic potential.”


The midriff of the car, which was concealed at launch by carbon fibre, black paint and darkened images, exposes a significant chunk of the team’s winter work. The all-new bargeboards are greatly evolved over last year’s.

The footplate area is heavily fluted, consisting of an array of ‘teeth’ that extend forward from the leading edge of the floor and intersect the base of the bargeboard. The fluting creates lots of small pressure gradients, leading to the generation of a series of vortices that wind up into one as it is pushed outwards by the bargeboards that help seal the floor, boosting downforce.


The sidepods have an air of Ferrari about them, however, and their design is a genuine masterpiece: by using the low-slung side impact protection spar an extreme undercut has been created below the wide, but narrow, inlet, providing a huge volume for airflow to travel through. The undercut is protected by a plethora of large baffles surrounding the inlet, defending it from the turbulent wake of the tyre ahead.


At the rear the Mercedes influences continue with a similar diffuser design. Williams continues to use an alloy gearbox case while most teams construct theirs from carbon fibre. “It’s something we may look at for the future,” said Lowe, “but we’re happy with what we’ve got at the moment.”


The front suspension has received a bit of an inspection over the off season. The high wishbone layout favoured by others hasn’t been adopted, nor the extruded clevises, but the carbon fairings have been heavily sculpted to manage the air around the front tyre.

De beer says the team has “taken a more aggressive approach” with the FW41 compared to last year’s car, “both in terms of being prepared to adopt features on the car which may lead to a loss of performance but that we feel, in the long term, is the right direction to go, and also being more aggressive in the way we believe we will operate the car.”

“For example, in terms of how much fuel we’re running, how much cooling we have in the car. The car is much less conservative than the FW40. We are pushing the car to the edge in a whole variety of areas.”

How big a step forward they have made, and how quickly they can realise it given the compromised start to testing due to last week’s poor weather, is now the crucial question.



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Re: Launch Date FW41 15th Feb
Mehryar 06 March, 2018 16:11
"both in terms of being prepared to adopt features on the car which may lead to a loss of performance but that we feel, in the long term, is the right direction to go"

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That sounds negative to me but surely they are so sure about the concept which pushes them into this.



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