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Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Discussion started by Anderis , 17 May, 2018 20:52
Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Anderis 17 May, 2018 20:52

Who is the worst driver on the grid?

Stroll
Sirotkin

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What do you think?

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Gunk 17 May, 2018 22:05
A bit harsh, Anderis.

Maybe Sirotkin is 'most disappointing'. Then again, he's a rookie, the car is undriveable and they can't even fix his seat after 5 races.

(Maybe they don't have enough data to fix his seat? Or might it be a correlation problem with the tape measure?)

Actually, I don't think Sirotkin comes close to Grosjean so far for performing below his potential.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Ozzy Osbone 18 May, 2018 05:44
I certainly wouldn't say Stroll. He has kept it out of trouble largely and has done a decent job at least. There are other candidates. Hartley, Gosjean. Both of these could find themselves out of F1 next year I think.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
an.jo 18 May, 2018 06:13
Why did you beat your wife? that is, it's a loaded question premised on either Stroll or Sirotkin being the "worst driver on the grid," "worst" not being defined. The 2 responding posts so far are suggesting you have to take context into account -- e.g., rookie with a difficult car to drive -- if you're going to make driver comparisons.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
AlanJones 18 May, 2018 06:21
I can't believe I'm the only one who voted for Stroll.




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Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
A.Fant 18 May, 2018 08:13
Brendon Hartley. I still don't understand why STR didn't keep Kvyat over him despite the strained relationship. When it was Hartley and not Kvyat in the car after the USGP last year I was shocked.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Mikef1 18 May, 2018 11:23
+1 Hartley. Sky was saying he is in imminent risk of losing his seat to Wehrlein as soon as canada

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Mehryar 18 May, 2018 11:34
Worst can be Hartley but tbh Sirotkin has been disappointing in race conditions so far.Stars like Lecrec begin to put the hammer down sooner in their rookie year.Hopefully Monaco can be a fresh start for Sergey.



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Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Gunk 18 May, 2018 11:47
Quote:
AlanJones
I can't believe I'm the only one who voted for Stroll.

I didn't vote. Thing is, Stroll isn't really a bad driver, he's just dog slow.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
longer 18 May, 2018 12:28
Hartley, then Sirotkin, then Ericsson, then Strol, Grosjean being the dumbest one

Don't understand the reasoning that someone is in a rookie year, this is a sport when you often has one-time opportunity, you need to show something as soon as you can. Not so many people have some years to show something after poor years (like Ricardo did).

Sirotkin had bad lack but very good people are able to avoid a bad lack.
Leclerc has been reasonable and showed something already. Kubica had podium on a 3rd race in his career.

The fact is that we will have Stroll/Sirotkin till end of season no matter what. Stroll will get some points, Sirotkin waiting for plenty of crashes to finitsh <= 10th

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
AlanJones 18 May, 2018 13:18
Quote:
Gunk
Quote:
AlanJones
I can't believe I'm the only one who voted for Stroll.

I didn't vote. Thing is, Stroll isn't really a bad driver, he's just dog slow.

Interesting, when is a driver bad? When one is slow as fudge, they arent necessarily bad then?




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Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
A.Fant 18 May, 2018 13:48
Stroll is not inherently slow, he was blindingly quick in every juinor formulae he competed in and his race pace is usually good in F1. I think he has issues with driving an unpredictable car - it's manageable in the race where you aren't right on the limit but it really hurts in qualifying.

I don't buy the excuse that he had some secret advantage over his competitors in junior formulae - but he probably always had a good, stable setup due to driving for the best teams and never had to deal with for example a car whose aerodynamics randomly stalled at corner entry.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
WilliamsF1Portugal 18 May, 2018 14:06
Sirotkin, and its not even close, and I say this with an heavy heart since I really dont like Stroll personality.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
K1 18 May, 2018 14:40
What a stupid poll. Th3 Grid? Why two drivers only. Talk about dumb.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Gunk 19 May, 2018 04:41
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A.Fant

I don't buy the excuse that he had some secret advantage over his competitors in junior formulae - but he probably always had a good, stable setup due to driving for the best teams and never had to deal with for example a car whose aerodynamics randomly stalled at corner entry.

I take your point, but he wasn't very quick last year in a car that didn't stall. More important, he didn't get any quicker over the entire season, finishing dead last in Abu Dhabi and qualifying nearly a second slower than Massa in the penultimate race.

That is an absolutely massive gap - I think the largest average team mate gap this season is three tenths, between Alonso and Stoffel.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Sweeper 19 May, 2018 13:51
Hard to compare two drivers whose performance is by any accounts among the worst on the grid, but let’s look at demonstrated strenghts, to assess if they have anything at all to build on. Things they do well vs. grid, not your average Joe.

Stroll, for example, starts well in my opinion. Not much more I am afraid.

Sirotkin doesn’t do anything well. Well, apart from being outscored by Stroll, something most of the grid would find challenging.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
hemorrhage 19 May, 2018 14:56
Rubbish topic. For now the worst is Paddy Lowe

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Mehryar 19 May, 2018 17:18
Yeah let's fire him away and take our 7th technical director in last 10yrs! Lol!
Thanks to our luck, you don't run a team!



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Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
phatjack 19 May, 2018 17:37
Some teams attract star drivers while others attract TD's who have it all figured out. I'm sure given time Paddy could attract a star driver he can hide behind.

Re: Poll: Who is the worst driver on the grid?
Gunk 19 May, 2018 19:23
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phatjack
Some teams attract star drivers while others attract TD's who have it all figured out. I'm sure given time Paddy could attract a star driver he can hide behind.

It should have been that way. But what can we point to that suggests Lowe is making a difference?

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