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Re: News and Stuff!
Williams-123 (IP Logged)
02 February, 2019 13:24
This Alfa Romeo take over is going to be a huge boost for the ex Sauber team also it is going to help the Ferrari F1 team.

So this can only be a big negative for the Williams team (Sm17)

@#$%& B teams (Sm122)(Sm110)

 
Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar (IP Logged)
02 February, 2019 17:19
I'm not much worried about these B-teams as said around here.
Reality is with exception of 2018, those B-teams have been easy to be beaten by private teams like us.
Looking at where STR, Haas and Force India (after all they had the same rear end of Mercedes for a couple of years) finished in last few years, they behind Williams.
'18 was more of a Williams own @#$%&-up than they do something miraculous.



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Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar (IP Logged)
02 February, 2019 18:52
Just read Alfa is going to invest 50m $ for this year budget + Ferrari giving free engines.
I take my words back...It sounds dangerous to any midfield rival team.



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Re: News and Stuff!
j-s (IP Logged)
03 February, 2019 14:56
Lotus and Williams, just read the news...

 
Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar (IP Logged)
03 February, 2019 15:05
Lotus & Williams? What's that j-s?



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Re: News and Stuff!
ihme (IP Logged)
03 February, 2019 15:25
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Lotus & Williams? What's that j-s?

Lotus and WAE will be sharing r&d technology. But it's WAE so probably will not have too much in common with the F1 team.

 
Re: News and Stuff!
03 February, 2019 16:26
Read about Lotus and WAE on pistonheads last week it's to do with a super car using hybrid technology



100% Williams
WILL SUPPORT WILLIAMS AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A TEAM

 
Re: News and Stuff!
Gunk (IP Logged)
03 February, 2019 18:06
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Just read Alfa is going to invest 50m $ for this year budget + Ferrari giving free engines.
I take my words back...It sounds dangerous to any midfield rival team.

That's just to take care Kimi's salary and expenses smiling smiley

 
Re: News and Stuff!
andy si (IP Logged)
03 February, 2019 18:47
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Read about Lotus and WAE on pistonheads last week it's to do with a super car using hybrid technology

This Lotus & WAE tech share seems a good start for road going hybrid project(s). Williams already presented it's hybrid base for a potential road going projects late in 2018. Good for them if this partnership results in real road going projects and also becomes profitable soon. Would be good for Williams aswell I guess.

A certain Lotus Elise comes to mind.. an offspin or a modernized sports project would work nicely for both companies.



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Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar (IP Logged)
03 February, 2019 19:29
@Gunk, I know you're joking but drivers' deals were published a while ago for '19.
Kimi has a huge pay cut.Around 4millions and we have the cheapest line-up bar STR.



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Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar (IP Logged)
04 February, 2019 09:31
Haas annouces its launch date, with new livery.
It's only us and RBR yet to announce its launch date.



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Re: News and Stuff!
IanSmithISA (IP Logged)
04 February, 2019 10:27
Good morning,
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Read about Lotus and WAE on pistonheads last week it's to do with a super car using hybrid technology

This Lotus & WAE tech share seems a good start for road going hybrid project(s). Williams already presented it's hybrid base for a potential road going projects late in 2018. Good for them if this partnership results in real road going projects and also becomes profitable soon. Would be good for Williams aswell I guess.

A certain Lotus Elise comes to mind.. an offspin or a modernized sports project would work nicely for both companies.

WANDisco are an IT company that got into trouble but then got out of trouble and there is a short video clip here where the founder talks about they type of people in his good and bad management teams.

[www.bbc.co.uk]

After watching the video go and look up the background of the Williams directors both exec and non exec and you might see why I am frequently so unsure of the future.

So should we ask. are the management bored with their F1 jobs and possibly over confident of their WAE Tech?

On one hand I certainly hope that everything is paid for up front, so F1 funds don't get sucked away, but if they are then where is the big profit that would help the F1 team?

I mean this seriously what do WAE have to offer in the electric vehicle market?

Tesla and Jag have mainstream products already covered with other car maker coming on board, as well as the various mainly urban electric vehicles.

Tesla have demonstrated Ludicrous Mode which is fun and really just a matter of heating the battery and a thick wire to the motors! :-)

The demand for high performance looking vehicles without the matching performance,150mph for ? hours, still seem to be undefined as there are still battery capacity issues. This is why McLaren don't yet offer an all electric roadcar and you can't ignore the fact the WAE lost the Formula E battery contract to a much better McLaren battery.

Yes I am aware of the WAE electric "skateboard chassis", but that is a long way from a car that people would want to buy. If you have built your car on top of a ready to roll chassis what happens if battery cooling requirement change and suddenly require a liquid radiator?

Double the speed and pretty much quadruple the power, that's a lot of heat to disperse.

If you look at the early days of Tesla converting the Elise to the Tesla Roadster it was not a simple job. Its not the apparently complex things, its the obvious things, do the doors close and the windows go up and down without leaking and does the door lock work.

Tesla learnt a lot from the Roadster which lead to a lot of their later designs, get rid of things like dashboards and door handles.

Surely Williams needs it top level of management ensuring that the F1 team has the facilities to succeed?

Although the numbers are hard to be sure of, last year Williams had about $150million only $20-$30 million off the smallest budgets and well short of $250-450 million of McLaren etc

Bye

Ian



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Re: News and Stuff!
ihme (IP Logged)
04 February, 2019 11:43
Red Bull will unveil their new car on the 13th. So its just us now.

 
Re: News and Stuff!
Williams-123 (IP Logged)
04 February, 2019 11:56
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Red Bull will unveil their new car on the 13th. So its just us now.

I knew Williams would be the last team to announce their car launch, they are always last.

LAST to announce their driver line ups.

LAST to announce their car launches.

LAST in the WDC.

LAST in the WCC.

These days Williams just seem to be LAST in everything...(Sm19)(Sm17)(Sm18)



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Re: News and Stuff!
Williams-123 (IP Logged)
04 February, 2019 12:50
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Red Bull will unveil their new car on the 13th. So its just us now.

Hopefully the 2019 Red Bull car is a dog...If it is I will be laughing at the idiot Helmut Marko and the idiot Verstappen family.

Please 2019 Red Bull car be a dog.

Sucked in Marko.

Sucked in Verstappen.

 
Re: News and Stuff!
j-s (IP Logged)
04 February, 2019 17:40
WAE and Lotus isn't a huge deal, but it bodes well for the business in general.

Lotus has had delusions of grandeur in the past that have come to nothing, but the Lotus brand is still resonant and partnering with them to develop relevant technology is good. Also provides a link to the Chinese, which is good in the long term I think.

Now, if only the racing team could secure a massive partnership with a top tier manufacturer...

 
Re: News and Stuff!
IanSmithISA (IP Logged)
04 February, 2019 18:29
Good evening,

Formula 1 has virtually no history of developing things that are useful to the more general world, it is just a consumer and of ideas developed and used by other industries.

This not supreising as F1 teams don't have the money or resources to research, it is an application only business. If F1 really were a hot house of ideas where are the companies and products spawned from F1?

I do remember the Williams supermarket fridge that reduced the loss of cold air.

So let's be honest and admit how much F1 tech is really in a mass production car, the only thing that I can think of is that Turbulent Gas Ignition may be a big step forward but even that is something that came from bikes.

What else?

The notion that Williams etc will come up with new battery tech is laughable, who in these teams are researching battery chemistry?

The answer is no one, it is Panasonic, Sony etc.

"Now, if only the racing team could secure a massive partnership...."

You are so right and maybe so wrong. :-)

Does the Racing Team's top level management care, is winning in F1 what they are interested in, is that target too small, too insignificant?

Bye

Ian

 
Re: News and Stuff!
ihme (IP Logged)
05 February, 2019 11:15
Williams confident key issues being resolved

"While the deputy team principal is wary of not being able to judge any progress over the winter against its rivals at this stage, Williams says internal targets to improve specific aspects within the team have so far been met."

“The atmosphere is good actually, I have to say,” Williams told RACER. “Everyone’s working really hard. We’ve obviously had the plan that we’ve put in place around car development that’s been ongoing for a while now and that’s been going I think probably as we would expect."

“I think it’s a case of we clearly have got to wait and see until we get to testing to see what everyone else is doing so it’s quite difficult to judge the progress we’re making at this point. We’re pretty happy that we have resolved some of the key issues that we had last year but our recovery is still very much a work in progress.”


[racer.com]

 
Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar (IP Logged)
05 February, 2019 14:08
It's always positive to read things like that specially when you hear it from Paddy, Kubica and Claire, all saying the boxes are ticked as planned but all of these things are pretty normal between all 10 teams year after the year.There were very few occasions you hear a team saying "we're behind the plan or our new car won't be an improvement" at this time of the year.

Timesheet of winter testing doesn't lie.It never did and it won't...All these analyzes and predictions are meaningless.



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Re: News and Stuff!
ihme (IP Logged)
06 February, 2019 10:09
It's nice to see that the mood is good inside the team:

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