The Redbull Young driver program is rich in young talent, including I think Buemi,Liuzzi,Vettel, plus others.

Sébastien Bourdais failed to impress but that was understandable.

Can Ricciardo live up to expectations considering the talent in the Redbull young driver program?

cough cough

i am not sure about Buemi and Liuzzi

good but they seem not to show the goods like vets did,

anyways doesnt matter

Phatjack on his usual "stirring an Aussie" campaign.

Ignore it, he has no credibility.

i believe if mark keeps red bull seat for '11

You may well see daniel take either of the two at torro race seat, not that i am taking bait just my honest opinion

.. all though its pure speculation as the future is still to come

They need to bring Dan on naturally, he should do GP2 in '11 and then see about F1 for '12.

Buemi is awesome by the way.

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sorry loud not sure if your serious or joking i mean i think of buemi and he just blows my mind ...

WOAH!


lol

He seems in line for it. I mean, the kid god three whole test days, thats a pretty significant sign of confidence.

well phatjack/cziborg/[qburd/gemma] whatever, i think that setting the stunning times that he did during the test would certainly be a leg in for the future. that and the fact that he is australian would say a lot, don't you think? especially with your obvious admiration for all things aussie.

Whats wrong with Buemi? Put Bourdais in his place, was quick in the wet in China and finished last season very strongly. Plus he's awesome on the radio.

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well phatjack/cziborg/[qburd/gemma] whatever, i think that setting the stunning times that he did during the test would certainly be a leg in for the future. that and the fact that he is australian would say a lot, don't you think? especially with your obvious admiration for all things aussie.

thumbs up K1

It is so obvious that this poster phatjack posts stuff in a troll like fashion, it is so predictable, it is always little sly sneaky posts that have a go at Mark Webber or all things Australian in general.

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K1 i also would not rule out that this poster is flashF1 under a different account, because it is the exact same MO as flashF1 he/she used to do the exact same thing with the majority of their posts being troll like and always having little digs at Mark Webber or Australians in general.

A poster like this just causes trouble on a F1 forum when all they do all the time is knock one of the teams drivers and when they always keep knocking a certain nationality this nationality being Australians.

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I think you all missed the point, Ricciardo is more ready than a Petrov or Chandhok for example. Why because of the Redbull Young Drivers Program.

They're 'ready' are they? Their bank balances say they're ready. I think it's better to just work your way up the ladder, if he's good enough he'll get to F1.

P.S: From what I've seen he'd probably do fine if he got in now, but it's better to gain as much experience as he can safe in the knowledge he has Red Bull backing.

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They're 'ready' are they? Their bank balances say they're ready. I think it's better to just work your way up the ladder, if he's good enough he'll get to F1.
P.S: From what I've seen he'd probably do fine if he got in now, but it's better to gain as much experience as he can safe in the knowledge he has Red Bull backing.

Are we agreeing or disagreeing?

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I think you all missed the point, Ricciardo is more ready than a Petrov or Chandhok for example. Why because of the Redbull Young Drivers Program.

I have no idea.

I'm saying no he's not ready.

Other people being ready or not has nothing to do with Dan, it seemed to me you were bringing them up to lay the foundation for an argument that he was.

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Ok, forget the Red Bull junior program and ask "Is he ready for F1" again.

Ok, what evidence do we have.

Well, here is a list of British F3 drivers who won the championship and then went on to race F1 (I've only gone as far back as 1975), and how long after their F3 wins they made the top grade.

75 - Gunnar Nilsson - F1 in '76 and '77
76 - Bruno Giacomelli - F1 in '77 -'83
77 - Derek Daly - F1 in '78 - '82
78 - Derek Warrick - F1 in '81 - '90
78 - Nelson Piquet - F1 in '78 - '91
79 - Chico Serra - F1 in '81 - '83
80 - Stefan Johansson - F1 in '80, '83 - '91
81 - Jonathan Palmer - F1 in '83 - '89
82 - Tommy Byrne - F1 in '82 only
83 - Ayrton Senna - F1 in '84 - '94
84 - Johnny Dumfries - F1 in '86
85 - Maurício Gugelmin - F1 in '88 - '92
87 - Johnny Herbert - F1 in '89 - '00
88 - JJ Lehto - F1 in '89 - '94
89 - David Brabham - F1 in '90, '94
90 - Mika Hakkinen - F1 in '91 - '01
91 - Rubens Barrichello - F1 in '93 - '10
92 - Gil de Ferran - F3000 in '93&'94, then CART
94 - Jan Magnussen - F1 in '95 - '98
95 - Oliver Gavin - No F1 (although driven safety car!)
96 - Ralph Firman - F1 in '03
00 - Antônio Pizzonia - F1 in '03 - '05
01 - Takuma Sato - F1 in '02 - '08
04 - Nelson Piquet Jnr - F1 in '08
08 - Jamie Alguersuari - F1 in '09
09 - Daniel Ricciardo - F1 in ??

So, based on history, he should be "ready" pretty much now. In recent years, since money has had a bigger factor in getting into F1 than talent (as was the case in the 80's and 90's), it seems to take longer to get into F1, but Red Bull are delivering a program that gets around this hurdle, hence Jamie Alg' and Daniel are VERY much ready, and also have the avenue to make the step up.

So, having done my analysis, combined with the fact he was BLOODY fast in testing the F1 car, YES, he is ready.

Argue that B'arches!

You have like 3 races these days to make an impact or you're in big trouble. Algie is hanging on by the skin of his teeth. Keep working up the ladder, test F1 as often as he can, be as prepared as possible is the best way to hit the ground running. Surely the best example is Lewis Hamilton.

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It's never going to happen that way though LH, which is a shame.

Lewis was fortunate to get in just before the bans on testing became so severe.

Still, if they use any young driver tests for him, he keeps racing and gets into GP2 (can go to race meetings, sit in with RBR engineering meetings) and then gets a full pre-season of testing before he does make the leap, he'll be better prepared than if they just chucked him in now.

I'm just going on the off chance that he's not as good as Ayrton Senna ofcourse

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Problem on the GP2 angle is that Red Bull do not have a presence in GP2 I believe F3, WSR then F1 I believe. I would prefer Dan miss out for another year then come in too early and blow his chance.

But I think it would be awesome to have two aussies in F1 at the same time..... I think the last time would be the seventies unless you count the two Brabham boys with David never making a start....correct me if Im wrong

GP3 with Horner and Webbos team maybe?

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Isn't he going to Formula Renault this year?

apparently RBR think so highly of ricci that they have named him as 1st reserve for both toro rosso and red bull. this means that he has preference over hartley in both teams.

that certainly seems like a resounding vote of confidence in the lad. good enough for you fatjak/czibor?

well its people like that, that love to disagree, its really super frustrating, i have a step father who is like that and yeah no more to be said, but people/posters like that just love to disagree,

we have a couple here but of course i will not say but if you stay around long enough you might tell :-)

'Ricciardo the preferred reserve driver at Red Bull Racing'

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prime is "channel 7" up here, i think he would love to be interviewd on prime time yep well done go Daniel!!

@#$%& i hope he dont take webbers seat but the writting is on the wall :-(

Whitey are you gonna be at gp

i actually would love to catch

i am sorry for what has been said.. water under bridge ..

i just want to see who all you funny/crazy people are in the real :-)

Its all good f1man, but no not going to the GP this year.

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boo! :-)

Would they let you out to visit the GP F1man?

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nope same rules as for you too!

Bummer!

:-)

The propect of Ricci in F1 makes my heart sing. For I know that my love for watching F1 will fade without an aussie to barrack for.

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Whitey posted that link a few posts ago...

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