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Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: Whitey*~@ (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 03:16

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"The Red Bull is ridiculously faster than anyone else's car," Hamilton told the British media. "It's insane.

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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: diggerD (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 04:26

Bit of butt covering going on I think. We may have an edge, but I don't think one could say we were "ridiculously faster"

Double the down-force seems a bit extreme as well I think, but apparently he is a bit of an aero expert I have heard (Sm111)

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: LoudHoward (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 04:53

He talks a lot of rubbish that Hamilton. Next, he'll be the one that came up with the F-Vent lol!



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: Whitey*~@ (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 04:54

I think Hamilton is on the money, see the thing is Red Bull still are yet to really show how dominant they are, even tho there has already been one race, because Red Bull have been making a bit of noise saying the Bahrain circuit is a circuit to least suit the RB6 and RBR did not get the 1st & 2nd result in Bahrain that they could have got.

So some people still are not really believing that RBR is the fastest top team, but it will all surface in Australia, you watch after the OZ GP people will see what Hamilton is talking about in this article.

If Red Bull have no incidents in the Australian GP, if they have no mechanical problems i am 99% sure they will finish 1st and 2nd.



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: LoudHoward (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 04:58

Got a source for the Bahrain doesn't suit RB6 comments Whitey?



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: Whitey*~@ (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 05:18

Got a source for the Bahrain doesn't suit RB6 comments Whitey?

Loud i could look around on the internet but not sure if i will be able to find it in print, but i heard or seen Mark Webber say it at some stage over or at the end of the Bahrain race Weekend....I am pretty sure i heard Mark say this and maybe someone else from the RBR team say it, but can't remember who, it may have even been Horner who said it as well?

Pretty sure some people of importance within the Red Bull team said it, so i am taking their word for it because they know more than me about this stuff, the fact that they said it if they said it is pretty scary considering how fast the RB6 looked at the Bahrain circuit, man if that circuit did not suit the RB6, well what does that say? considering the RB6 still looked super quick there Red Bull look like they are going to be in for a massive massive massive tremendous season.



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: LoudHoward (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 05:46

I know if they said it then woo but I don't recall it being said that's all.



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: Whitey*~@ (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 06:16

I know if they said it then woo but I don't recall it being said that's all.

Cheers loud, i am pretty sure it was said at some point over the Bahrain weekend, so yeah hope i heard correct, someone else here may have heard it and will back me up.thumbs down



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: WebHead (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 06:29

I can sort of backup what Whitey said. I also don't remember clearly.

I think it might have been Webber, when he explained his two mistakes in his qualifying lap on Saturday. He mentioned that the car had very good pace, which was a slight (but not big) surprise, because Bahrain was one of those tracks that they weren't sure about, as it is a bit 'Mickey Mouse' and traditionally the Red Bull doesn't suit that.

Looking at last year, we're gonna struggle at Monza, because of our engine, and Monaco, because usually McLaren or some other team has superior mechanical grip.

After watching Bahrain, could see how amazingly quick the Red Bull was in the middle sector, even though Webber couldn't pass anybody, his car just looked so good through, compared to the cars he was trailing...

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: Duffer (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 10:02

Classic Lewis Hamilton. Down playing others wine by saying they have an advantage, and word upping himself saying his car is not great, but he makes it sing!

He is worried about Vettel taking his crown as the next best thing. He has to discredit him by talking this sort of rubbish.

I have a feeling Lewis has not yet convinced himself he is the guy.



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: Whitey*~@ (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 10:14

He is worried about Vettel taking his crown as the next best thing. He has to discredit him by talking this sort of rubbish.

Mark Webber also drives a RB6 Duff.

Webber could end up being the next best thing at a older age like Mansell.



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: phatjack (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 10:32

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Duffer
Classic Lewis Hamilton. Down playing others wine by saying they have an advantage, and word upping himself saying his car is not great, but he makes it sing!
He is worried about Vettel taking his crown as the next best thing. He has to discredit him by talking this sort of rubbish.

I have a feeling Lewis has not yet convinced himself he is the guy.

I see Lewis's comments as complimentary to RedBull. Hard to argue Alonso would caught Vettel if it wasn't for his car trouble.

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: blight (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 16:24

Actually I also remember them saying that it wasn't a red bull suited track. But I think thats plain to see considering that it was a slow turn circuit, one which we had not been fast on before.

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: TomLodge (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 16:45

hamilton is talking a load of rubbish here. red bull are gonna be damn good this year and i do think the only thing that will stop seb is reliability tbh, but to say that we are dominant is utter crap. honestly if the car let's vettel down, i can see him leaving for mercedes.

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: blight (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 16:54

Oh please.

Your all bloody blind. (well not really blind)

Hamilton doesn't come across to me like he's talking bs.

And you can all see now how fast the bloody car is, or did everyone not watch the race?

We ARE dominant.

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: phatjack (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 17:54

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blight
Actually I also remember them saying that it wasn't a red bull suited track. But I think thats plain to see considering that it was a slow turn circuit, one which we had not been fast on before.

Considering Bahrain is not suited to RebBull, Vettel's drive there in 2009, I think is to be looked at as something special and an improvement over 2008. Where the best they could do there is finish 7th. In 2010 despite some minor issues Vettel finished 4th. I think, without argument the RB6 holds lots of potential given the right circumstances.

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: blight (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 18:10

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phatjack
I think, without argument the RB6 holds lots of potential given the right circumstances.

A lot of potential given the right circumstances?

You could say that about every car in the field. Not really saying much at all. And they call me a fence sitter!

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: phatjack (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 19:04

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blight
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phatjack
I think, without argument the RB6 holds lots of potential given the right circumstances.

A lot of potential given the right circumstances?

You could say that about every car in the field. Not really saying much at all. And they call me a fence sitter!

Nah, I didn't want to come out and say Vettel is proof that Bharain suited RedBull.

2nd in 2009 and 4th in 2010. Though a 7th in 2008 was a good showing.

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: chucky2 (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 22:06

how is albert park for the bull then?



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: LoudHoward (IP Logged)
Date: 21 March, 2010 23:51

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blight
Oh please.
Your all bloody blind. (well not really blind)

Hamilton doesn't come across to me like he's talking bs.

And you can all see now how fast the bloody car is, or did everyone not watch the race?

We ARE dominant.

Ofcourse we're fast, dominant though? Lets see, half a second over the Ferrari? So Vettels qually lap was poo? Right. The half the downforce comment? Ha!

Lewis was talking crap, at least one of the comments was complete toss. I'm not just going to accept half of what he said because it makes me feel good. Prefer to just wait and see smiling smiley



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: Whitey*~@ (IP Logged)
Date: 22 March, 2010 01:16

Nah, I didn't want to come out and say Vettel is proof that Bharain suited RedBull.

That is good that you did not come out and say that because you would have been wrong.

That is the whole point of what we are talking about here, what we are saying is just how good Red Bull and the RB6 is this season, just because Vettel led the Bahrain race and almost won it still does not mean the track suited the RB6, i mean that is how good the RB6 is this year, even at tracks that don't suit the RB6 it showed it still is that good at it's bad tracks that it can win at them as well.

So what will it be like at the tracks that suit it more.

But in saying all this the other top teams like Ferrari , McLaren & Merc could still close the gap to Red Bull a bit over the next 4 or 5 months.



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: blight (IP Logged)
Date: 22 March, 2010 02:04

Quote:
LoudHoward
Ofcourse we're fast, dominant though? Lets see, half a second over the Ferrari? So Vettels qually lap was poo? Right. The half the downforce comment? Ha!

Lewis was talking crap, at least one of the comments was complete toss. I'm not just going to accept half of what he said because it makes me feel good. Prefer to just wait and see smiling smiley

In qually you will not see quite as much performance difference than is in the race, i think you know why this is. I'm sure seb vets lap was very good.

Prefer to just wait and see? I guess thats a good option for most people. Can't be wrong then.

Sigh.

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: RedWebber07 (IP Logged)
Date: 22 March, 2010 02:37

I'm with Duffer. We might be fast, but we're not an eon faster than McLaren & Ferrari.

It does sound to me like LH belittling success achieved in an RB6. thumbs up



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: blight (IP Logged)
Date: 22 March, 2010 02:42

Lewis says he reckons we are a good half a second faster than the Ferrari's.

So i'm guessing that you all doubt this.

Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: LoudHoward (IP Logged)
Date: 22 March, 2010 02:57

I'm just taking what he's saying with a grain of salt, half of what he's said he's just made up, so there is some reason to doubt the entire conversation.

Naturally, I'd love it if you're right, and he's right about the gap between us and Ferrari.



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: Whitey*~@ (IP Logged)
Date: 22 March, 2010 02:59

I see what Loud is saying, Lewis does sound like he might be exaggerating just a touch, but yeah the RB6 still seems like it is the fastest car out there,...so all good.



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Re: Hamilton: Red Bull has big advantage
Posted by: willber (IP Logged)
Date: 22 March, 2010 04:43

Lewis says what Lewis says to benifit one person: Lewis!

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