it is now being floated by ron dennis that maybe the sudden reduction in vettels lap times was due to a realisation that they would run out of fuel.

he goes on to say that once vettel had conserved enough to get him over the line he was able to pick it up and hold off the mercedes to take fourth.

a very interesting explanation and maybe an inherent design flaw in a fuel tank that is too small. either that or the renault is thirstier that originally thought.

If that was true the RB6 must have a 'sound like a coughing dog'button on the wheel!

When they crossed to the onboard camera the sound coming from the powerplant was terrible and you could hear the miss fire clearly...

RD just trying to deflect the fact that for the second year in a row the Mclaren is not a top 2 car!!!!!!

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You mean increase in lap times?

On the community RBR forums, one of the team mechanics said this was rubbish. He stopped at the end next to a firemarshals post. Also, if it was a fuel thing, you do what Massa did, gradually slow it down, and you give the driver a constant stream of information about how fast/slow he needs to go. We got none of that, just Sebvet asking if there was anything that could be done to fix it.

As for design flaw, Webber was fine and from what we've heard he uses a touch more fuel than Sebvet.

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'sound like a coughing dog'button on the wheel!

Any idea how they work?

I think my Magna has one jammed set to on.

well maybe some more information will come to light as to the real reason. the renault spokesperson seemed to edge away from the sparkplug explanation as a
'totality'.

If it was fuel, there would of been some kind of indication across the radio, which all teams have access to.

During the race, they did not know what the issue was, so it's good thinking to get Sebastian to nurse it home then stop it as soon as possible in case they were damaging the engine.

Maybe, Vettel was told we will keep an eye out for you fuel consumption and if we think you are using too much then we will moon you on pit straight. If you understand push the"Coughing Dog" button. (Lets not forget Vettel likes to be able to push the little button.)

The only problem is, I don't remember hearing about the report of Vettel being mooned, ah well everyone must have missed it.

Man, all these consiracy theories!

F1 engines are such an intricate piece of machinery. With limited engines per season, if it's not running 100% according to specs, shut it down across the line to prevent possible damage, however minor. Simple.

Fuel......Pffffffft!

well, if it was a spark plug, surely that would have been glaringly obvious to the team via the engine telemetry and there could be no doubts as to the origin of said problem.

i really don't know what the problem was aprt from what i have read but considering the above it seems strange that the team would say it 'could' be an exhaust.

lets call "hunter"

can anyone remeber the aus tv show in early to mid eighties,

with the cat

they always solved problems

Go Hunter!!

hehe

I must admit that most peole thought it was an exhaust problem. The car sounded worse and worse every time it passed by. Even the team said it was an exhaust problem but then changed it to spark plug after further investigation. If it had been an exhaust problem then I think the engine would be running hot on one side hence the team wanting to shut it down asap after he crossed the line. I'm sure RBR are now fully aware of what the problem was and Mclaren are trying to deflect attention away from them having another off season.

thats it i believe abbay

I thought Ron Dennis stood down from involvement in the F1 side of Mclaren... or now we have the Toad instead of Mad Max is he beginning to worm his way back in?

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Dennis is just commenting from the sidelines. And even then it was probably just an off hand comment picked up by media.

I didn't know the ECU had an 'economy mode'.

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/11935.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

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well PJ you know now.

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well, if it was a spark plug, surely that would have been glaringly obvious to the team via the engine telemetry and there could be no doubts as to the origin of said problem.
i really don't know what the problem was aprt from what i have read but considering the above it seems strange that the team would say it 'could' be an exhaust.

Surely if it was that serious the team would not say it would be using that engine again. While noone can blame Newey or Renault, electrical malfunctions do happen.

Sure Mercedes may have been a better option but after the first race it's anyone's guess just how good Mercedes power is? They seemed to be just as close as Renault power yet not close enough. Considering Redbull had problems that is.

As if you can have any idea about the engine performance after one race.

RB never had that option anyway.

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As if you can have any idea.

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well PJ you know now.

That is very perceptive kenji. Did you work that out all by yourself or did you have help from a responsible adult?

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