Already they are having reliability issues with both cars. Surely they would have identified this issue as the reason they lost the title last year (that and Vettel making many more mistakes than J.

It seems they have not learned from this. Is it going to be another fast but fragile car from RBR which in the end will not cross the line often enough to take the title?

I know this: Today, they took a hacksaw to the bodywork and Adrian Newey was down on his knees at the back of the car...so something pretty serious is going on.

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Sine half the field have the experience of winning F1 races, reliability and ability to conserve tyres will be the main factors determining wins this year.

Wait and see how race pans out. Should be fascinating!

Vettel will fly off the line and into the distance and will mess up the rear tyres and will fall back during the race. I hope not,but hammy might do the same .Ferrari 1st and 2nd and Jens 3rd cos of looking after the tyres.

I have Jenson as third, too.

Jenson is good on "smooth" driving yes, but dont forget that P1 till P10 covers a good driver line up with car's that can all do it.

There is still Mark Webber wich has the same car then Vettel, so we know its fast, then there are both Mercedes in fron of Jenson also..

Up to now i still do not have a clue how its going to turn out tommorow, for sure the RB6 is very fast but i dont know how long it will hold.

I think red bull will win with a Mclaren on the podium hopefully



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Parm - apparently they have had a few goes at cutting away bodywork to aid cooling. I'm sure Brawn did something similar just before the race last year (or was that somewhere else hot?). During FR3 today they mentioned that the RB has very low slung exhausts which they believed was causing the heating issue.

@Parminio,

Did you see this on live coverage or did you happen on some pictures of the hacksaw job? That's one thing I'd love to see some good photos of -- I could imagine the title of the picture being 'Shaving off a few tenths'...

It was during coverage of qualifying. Looks like I was right. Vettle did a hell of a job though hanging on for 4th with a crippled car. And let me tell you, that kid has a GREAT head on his shoulders...parking the car immediately after crossing the line. REALLY heads up on his part.

As for Ferrari, well done to them...but they used two engines for each driver already and this is race 1. I am still very curious as to what's going on with that.

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It was during coverage of qualifying. Looks like I was right. Vettle did a hell of a job though hanging on for 4th with a crippled car. And let me tell you, that kid has a GREAT head on his shoulders...parking the car immediately after crossing the line. REALLY heads up on his part.
As for Ferrari, well done to them...but they used two engines for each driver already and this is race 1. I am still very curious as to what's going on with that.

He didn't park it, it ran out of fuel.

Yes I, too, wondered why Ferrari changed engines for both cars and that too when there was really no outward problem and with both having qualified in the top 3. It may spell big trouble for Ferrari later in the year.
Poor Vettel - he had done everything right and that, too, till the very end of the race.

So, Ferrari and Red Bull fast but fragile. Hamilton is waiting in the wings here.

Plus, I'm sure Macca can find half a second.

Newey outfoxes himself again. The RB6 will have reliability problems for the first part of the year with these Neweyisms on the car.

If you remember last year they were having problems in the first part of the year with suspension/gearbox set up. The car would hit a bump and lose the gear or bust a CV joint.

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Poor Seb. Had to feel for him. With two ferrari's past, and Lewis bearing down, that plaintive "Rocky, can you do anything to fix it?" was heartbreaking.

Yeah as much as i want the Mclaren's to win, i really felt sorry for SV not to win this race, he should have as he dominated every part of it.

He did a very nice job though of keeping it all together and finishing 4th holding of 2 Mercedes cars..

really seems like that the RB6 and the F10 have some reliability issues, they are fast but if the car's can't hold it during a race they are not going to make it.
Mclaren and Mercedes seem to be very reliable so far, now to just find some more race pace..

Spark plug failure not broken exhaust so not necessarily a Red Bull issue.

Yes Vettel's plight was a heart break for many. He did everything right - Alonso admitted that he could not stay with him. Had the exhaust not cracked he would have had pole fastest lap and the win

I'm not buying the spark plug failure excuse. I think it's a copout to a much bigger issue. They changed the exhaust configuration right before this race and didn't have time to test it properly and it failed.

The whole spark plug thing is a coverup...just like when Mercedes tried to tell everyone they didn't have a problem with the hydraulics back in 2003.

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I also doubt it as it made horrible sound.
Our commentators first tought it was Massa who had been told to slow down at first but then they saw how slow Vettel ran.


RedBull is fast but unreliable as all Neweys cars are.

Vettel has alot of talent and all that BUT he has become a prima donna.
He needs to come back down to earth.

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I am sick of Horner's whining. Does anyone in the Paddock complain more than this guy now? He's complaining yet again that Mercedes engines are 'vastly' overpowered compared to the Renault. Well, if that is the case, then why is the Red Bull car the fastest car for the better part of the last half of last season, and the quickest car so far this year.

It's not the engine that is the problem Horner...its your chassis! When you push the boundaries of sanity with Neweyisms on your car....it's bound to fail. Same thing happened last year...and it's happening again. Someone stick a sock in this guy's mouth already.

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Mercedes might be about 10 hp stronger then Renault.
At the end of bahrain race Nico with a much stronger engine (according to Horner) couldn't pass Vettel in a much weaker engine that had some sort of problems.

Nico should have flown past vettel if that was the case.

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The Renault is also much easier on fuel apparently giving Renault and Red Bull a huge early weight advantage (and of course tyre wear advantage).

On the BBC interview Martin Whitmarsh is suggesting that Red Bull are running a variable ride height control system, which was believed to be illegal?

He did state that Mclaren would be looking to get a system on their car by China.

It's like active suspension which is banned.

FIA should do the right thing and ban it.
Ban the damn diffuser at the same time.

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I'm not sure if it's similar to active suspension as from what I've read they can only change the ride height at pit stops. Presumably they can also make an adjustment between quali and the race otherwise it wouldn't have much value.

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I'm not sure if it's similar to active suspension as from what I've read they can only change the ride height at pit stops. Presumably they can also make an adjustment between quali and the race otherwise it wouldn't have much value.

I think you are right. The rear shocks on my bike have a ratchett system allowing for stiffer settings when running with a pillion on board. There is no reason why such a system could not be used between light and heavy fuel runs. The disadvantage is that a setting needs to be choosen before race start, when heavy with fuel, and no adjustment allowed before race end. It is a possible situation or is it sour grapes ?

Martin Whitmarsh did say that there was evidence which gave them good reason to believe that Red Bull were running such a system. I wonder if this evidence is ever going to materialise? And if it's anything more than an engineers hunch.

just wondering since i'm not a techie when it comes to this. but is it possible that a damper is an auto adjust like if it is heavier it would self adjust and make it stiffer therefore if filled with fuel it gets stiffer and they won't have to adjust the ride height for race day.