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TEAM PRINCIPALS: Ross Brawn
(Brawn GP), John Howett (Toyota), Adam Parr (Williams), Martin Whitmarsh
(McLaren Mercedes)
Q. A question to you all. Could you give us an update on how you feel your
teams have done so far looking at Australia and today. Adam?
Adam PARR: Well, if you got points for practice we would be doing very well
but obviously we need to do better than we did in Australia, that's for
sure.
Q. How has it gone today?
AP: It has gone okay but it does not really count for anything, does it?
Q. Ross, your feelings so far?
Ross BRAWN: Well, obviously Australia was, as has been said many times, a
fairytale. Thinking about what the team has gone through for the past few
months then to have the result we had in Melbourne was unconceivable and
unbelievable. I have been through many things in Formula One. I have been
lucky enough to have some very special experiences and that certainly ranks
as one of the best, if not the best of my career. It was achieved with a lot
of things from within the company but there are a lot of people outside the
company who helped us survive.
Martin was one of them and Ron did his elder statesman part and did a very
good job and I must say FOTA rallied around. We would not have survived
without the help of those people. Whilst it was a wonderful it shows that
even though we are going through a little bit of a difficult period with
protests and things at the moment there is another side of our business
which is very united and very together in trying to solve and improve
Formula One.
Q. Martin?
Martin WHITMARSH: I think we are already on record as saying that our car is
not quick enough and I think that was evident last weekend and it is evident
again this weekend. I think after the two massive championship seasons,
frankly, fighting through to the end of the year we put a lot of resource
into that. It was a decision we felt was right in Brazil but as we stand
today we know we have got a lot of catching up to do. On a positive note I
think in week 11, Barcelona test, I think we were very slow by comparison to
every car. I think the team has made a spirited fight-back to try and drag
itself into the pack but the truth is we have got a lot of work to do and we
have got a lot of development necessary to get ourselves into a position we
would expect to be in.
Q. John?
John HOWETT: I think it is too early to say really. We had a fairly
challenging weekend in Australia. In qualifying if you look at fuel
corrected pace, definitely Timo (Glock) had a very strong lap and in race
pace when we were running in relatively free air the car was competitive. We
need to wait at least another couple of races, different type of circuits,
to really judge the relative performance of all the teams.
Q. John and Martin, you both had certain events during last weekend. Any
further comment on what was happening last weekend and what continues to
happen now?
JH: I don't think so. I mean we have issued press statements on it, so we
will have to wait and see in terms of the diffuser what happens on April 14.
I think as a team we are very confident that we have interpreted the rules
correctly and we have had verification that our interpretation would appear
to be correct and we just need to wait to see.
MW: Well, okay obviously I have got to comment on what for our team is a
very sad day today. We have suspended a long standing Sporting Director,
Dave Ryan. I think many people in this room will know Dave and will know of
Dave. He has been with the team for 35 years. I have personally known him
for 20 years and I think anyone who knows him, knows that he is a very
straight forward, dedicated, hard working individual. However, it has become
clear from discussions with Dave last night and through into this morning
that during the stewards' meeting he was not entirely full and truthful in
answers that he gave the stewards and consequently we had no alternative
today other than to suspend him.
As you can imagine I think it is a very sad day for the team. We have got to
deal with this weekend and we have got to look in a bit more detail at all
of the events that surrounded that. From my perspective obviously it is a
point of deep, deep regret. It is not how I wanted this year in particular
to start and it is something for which the team and myself are not only
deeply embarrassed but deeply regretful. I think for Dave is has been a
shattering day for him.
Q. Another question for both of you in the front row. Relating to KERS, how
do you feel KERS went and how you have used it so far?
MW: I think at the moment it is still early days and frankly we had some
difficulties with KERS today and Lewis's runs in the afternoon were without
KERS. It was an incredibly challenging range of technologies to package KERS
on a Formula One car. I think Mercedes Benz have done a fantastic job and it
was a really successful use of it in Australia. Here it has been a bit
challenging but again it is early days. I am confident that we will find our
way through those difficulties.
It's a technology that is important to Formula One and there has been just a
huge effort to make it work. I can appreciate that some teams have decided
wisely not to bowl in there with KERS. I think Mercedes Benz and ourselves
rolled our shirt-sleeves up and got stuck into it. It has been a massively
expensive and challenging programme. But we are going to stick at it. When
it is working there is some advantage and we will, I am sure, have benefit
of it as the season progresses.
Q. Will you persevere with it this weekend?
MW: Yes, we will. I think we had one glitch which caused us for safety and
practical reasons to turn it off. I think we had a small cooling pump
failure which meant we couldn't run with it on Lewis's car. We will
obviously look into that and see whether it is anything particular to these
conditions or whether it's the fact it is a very new technology and we are
working hard to develop it and solve those problems.
Q. John, when will we see KERS on the Toyota?
JH: We are still monitoring the situation. We are still continuing
development in Cologne. I think we have always said that when we start to
see the advantage in terms of lap time or a competitive advantage we will
try to install KERS on the car. Here you have fairly long straights and a
reasonably long run into the first corner, so we need to evaluate what
advantage KERS will give in those situations.
Q. Adam, can you say when your slightly different system of KERS will be
used?
AP: Very similar to John. We are just working on it flat out and we are also
waiting to see whether it will generate faster lap time. But I think one
thing was quite clear in Melbourne which is that regardless of lap time
there may be tactical advantages in having it on the car, so we are more
determined than ever to have it on as soon as we can.
Q. Both of you in the back row are independent teams. You have both tasted a
certain amount of success in various ways. How important is that from a
commercial point of view? Ross, obviously, has got the Virgin sticker on the
car and that's about it. How important is success for you from a commercial
point of view? Adam, perhaps you could start?
AP: It is why we are here. We were very fortunate in the last few months of
last year that I think 10 of our partners renewed their sponsorship with us
and I think including four upgrades for this year, so they showed a lot of
faith in the team at a time that, as you will appreciate, was extremely
difficult to make a decision like that. We are very grateful to them and the
only way we can reward them on the track is by performing, so it is
absolutely crucial to us to perform.
Q. Ross, has the phone been ringing with people wanting to give you money
since last weekend?
RB: It is not quite that simple but there has been a lot of interest and of
course given the result we had last weekend it was perfect to develop the
commercial side. If we had been at the back of the grid it would have
certainly been a lot more difficult. But it is a tough market out there at
the moment and we all know what the economic situation is.
But things are developing reasonably well but the key objective for us is to
find partners that we can have for the next two, three or more years, not
just someone to come along and have a quick splash and disappear. We will
take our time to develop the right partners. With Virgin it is starting
small but with a lot of potential for the future, so I think we have made as
good a start as we could have dreamed of with the results we have and the
car we have got. With regards to KERS it is not high on the agenda for us at
the moment.
We had to make some compromises to change the engine in the car, so the car
has got to be heavier now than originally intended and that makes it quite
difficult to install KERS. We will have to work hard to get some weight out
of the car before we can get to a position where KERS is a possibility. Like
the rest of the group we will be monitoring the situation. This, I think, is
one of the best tracks for KERS according to our simulations when we did it
and I think you may see that KERS-equipped cars will be more to the fore
here than they perhaps would be on other circuits.
Q. Someone suggested last weekend that is costs more money to have KERS. Is
that right?
RB: It certainly costs money.
Q. Is it part of the deal? Is it extra?
RB: No, our engine agreement with McLaren Mercedes is purely an engine
supply agreement. We have had some tentative discussions about KERS but it
is a little bit early for us to engage properly on that.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q. (Paolo Ianieri - La Gazzetta dello Sport) Talking about what happened to
Mr Ryan. Does it mean that he was lying then to the stewards?
MW: It means he was not truthful and full in his answer which is what I said
(becomes inaudible).
Q. (Ed Gorman The Times) Martin, to follow that up. The impression we are
getting from the statement is that Dave Ryan did this on his own. Are you
telling us that there was no-one else involved in McLaren, senior to him, in
this process?
MW: Correct, there was no-one else senior. I think anyone who knows Dave
will know that he did not set out with any deliberate intention to mislead
the stewards. He went to that stewards meeting with Lewis, I am sure, with
the intention of being very clear and straightforward but I think during the
course of that meeting, as we explored it more with him, over the last 24
hours it became clear that he was not as full and comprehensive as he could
have been.
Q. (Ed Gorman The Times) Could you explain also what Lewis's precise role
was because the stewards made it very clear to us that both Dave Ryan and
Lewis specifically said that the team had not told them to allow (Jarno)
Trulli to go past. So what did Lewis do? Did he follow Ryan?
MW: I think Dave was the senior member of the team there and Dave has to
take responsibility for leading that process. I think Lewis is going to talk
to the media later and I am sure he will give a full account from his
perspective. But this is something that was still unfolding until literally
minutes before the first practice session. I had to take an incredibly
difficult decision. I have personally known Dave for 20 years.
If you go around this paddock and ask any team in any organisation of their
experiences of Dave in terms of his dedication and commitment, so he is
shattered by what has happened today. We need to take stock of that
situation but there were two people in with the stewards but Dave is part of
the management, he is the Sporting Director of this team, and as such he had
the responsibility to ensure that the stewards received a full and entirely
truthful account of what happened.
Q. (Ed Gorman The Times) There have been some very harsh things said about
the team, particularly in the British press, including a suggestion that
McLaren is contaminated by a culture of cheating. Is that the case?
MW: No.
Q. (Ed Gorman The Times) What is the case?
MW: The case is that Dave made a very serious error of judgement in going
into that stewards meeting and he is paying the consequences of that. It is
something that he deeply regrets, Lewis and I and the team regret, and it is
something that we have got to put right.
Q. (Juha Pδδtalo Financial Times Germany) You say that Dave was not
entirely truthful in front of the stewards but what about Lewis, was he
truthful in front of the stewards?
MW: No, I think that Lewis was not entirely truthful but we have spoken to
Dave, he was the senior member of the team and they went into a situation
together and I think they were trying to deal with the situation but they
got it wrong. Dave, as the senior member of the team was responsible for
what happened and therefore I took that decision this morning.
Q. (Jonathan Legard BBC) Martin, what is the procedure or the process in
terms of deciding what was going to be said? You were on the pit wall and so
was Ron Dennis as much as Dave and anyone else. When this process was
unfolding and you knew he had to go to the stewards what was done? What
happens?
MW: In truth the situation was that during this incident we were asking the
stewards, well, we were asking race control, for a decision because we
realised that Trulli had been let past. We did not think that was right
because in fact the original overtake of Trulli was entirely legitimate as
Trulli was not on the circuit. We believed that when all of the facts were
presented to the stewards that they would recognise and they would restore
the positions, so we asked for the race control and the stewards to look
into it and Dave and Lewis went to the stewards to give their account.
Q. (Jonathan Legard - BBC) But did they talk to you about what should be
said?
MW: No. They did not because it was not necessary. We knew what had happened
and there was a belief that a true and honest account of that would get the
result, that the positions would have been reversed.
Q. (Jonathan Legard BBC) So what got lost in translation? Lewis gave this
interview or interviews saying 'I was asked' and then said no' in the
stewards' inquiry. Why, why did that happen?
MW: Well, I think Lewis got out of the car and gave a truthful account of
what happened. I believe that whilst they were at the stewards, Dave, who
had been party to what had happened in Spa, was highly sensitive and I think
in the heat of the moment, his judgment was to not give a true account, and
I think Lewis was then led by that.
Q. (Jon McEvoy The Daily Mail) Martin, I was just wondering what we should
believe is the next step, given that Dave Ryan has been suspended as opposed
to sacked or resigned. What does that mean, how will that develop?
MW: What it leaves now is that this is something that happened literally
minutes before the first practice session. Dave has been sent home and we
need to, during the course of this weekend, understand exactly what happened
and make the decisions about Dave's future.
Q. (Jon McEvoy The Daily Mail) And finally, from me, I was wondering if
you, given all the fall-out from this, have given any consideration to
whether you would resign from your role?
MW: I think there's a lot of things going through my mind today and it's
happening during an event in which we're trying to do the best job we can. I
think, as a team, at the moment, we've lost someone who is very much a
significant anchor in this organisation and we've got to make sure that we
pull together to do the best job that we can this weekend. I think we've got
to reflect on everything that's happened over the course of the Australian
weekend, after this race has finished.
Q. (Jon McEvoy The Daily Mail) So you don't rule that in or out?
MW: I don't rule anything in or out. I think at the moment, what we are keen
and earnest to do today is make sure that we put our hands up and say it was
a serious error of judgement during that process and that we make sure that
we come clean on that fact.
Q. (Ingo Rφrsch Sport Bild) Mr Whitmarsh, have you had the chance to see
the precise words which were spoken between the stewards and your two team
members?
MW: No, I haven't. Ordinarily they aren't minuted and I believe one of the
stewards didn't bring his notebook from Australia but we have no access to
that. All we can do is ask the driver and the team manager what was said in
that meeting.
Q. (Ingo Rφrsch Sport Bild) But shouldn't that be recorded for the future?
MW: Well, again, I think at the moment it's not for me to make that
judgement. I think what the stewards should rely upon is that when the teams
are called before them, they will give a totally true and open account of
what happened.
Q. (Dan Knutson National Speed Sport News) John, relations between FOTA
and FOA are a bit strained and tense; do you see that getting better or
worse?
JH: Between FOTA and FOA? Well, I think at the moment we have progressed
significantly. There was, as you know, some tension over historic payments.
They haven't, I think, in the teams' opinion, all been settled but a
significant proportion have been settled and whilst we've been in Australia
I believe our lawyers together with FOA's lawyers have made significant
progress, so I think in terms of the actual agreement, we all believe, we
are extremely close to actually reaching a final conclusion.
Q. (Anne Giuntini L'Equipe) To all of those who are using KERS: how much
of an advantage can it be at the start? Is it quantifiable? Is it possible
to know?
MW: Yes, it's quantifiable. There are a number of factors but clearly if you
can discharge going down to the first corner, then you do get a quantifiable
advantage that varies from circuit to circuit depending on whether you're
grip limited and the length to that corner. It also, frankly, relies upon
you being able to deploy that much additional energy. If you are frankly
languishing further back on the grid as we were at the last Grand Prix, then
it's very rare that you can go to the first corner braking point at full
power, even with or without KERS, so its benefit is greater, clearly, if
you've got a clear run at the first corner.
Q. (Paolo Ianieri La Gazzetta dello Sport) Ross, how do you see the
situation here compared to Australia one week ago?
RB: It's still a little bit too early to say. We're struggling a little bit
with the balance of the car today, it's not quite as nice as Australia.
Despite what the perceptions are of the car it has actually very good low
speed grip, it's very good on traction. It's not a track that perhaps
rewards those elements quite as much and neither driver was particularly
happy with the balance of the car today, so we've got to do a good job
tonight to improve that, but I think we'll be near the front and fighting at
the front. Whenever anyone said a car or a team were going to be dominant,
don't believe it because this business is too competitive for anyone to be
dominant. We're going to have to fight very, very hard to get points this
weekend and hopefully get podiums.
Q. This is for Ross Brawn, can you explain for us the development plan for
your car this year? Do you have enough resources to develop the car while
other teams develop their cars, of course?
RB: Yes, we've been through a pretty traumatic winter and unfortunately that
still continued this week because we had a lot of restructuring of the team
to do. We're not a team with a budget that Honda had, so this week there has
been some unfortunate restructuring. We hope we're going into next week with
our new team and we can then look forward and the restructuring has been
very focused on performance. It would be no good having a team with
fantastic production facilities and no ideas, so the team has been
structured very strongly around maintaining a good development programme, so
we've tried not to impact the technical areas too much and yes, the
development is on-going.
We're planning an upgrade for Barcelona or just after Barcelona. We
obviously have this appeal hearing next week or the week after next and we
need to see what comes out of that because that may change direction. I'm
reasonably confident but you can't be one hundred percent confident. So
yeah, we've got to move forward. I think these new rules, by definition,
being a new set of rules, the rate of progress will be very rapid as Martin
touched on. At one stage in winter testing they were quite a long way behind
and now they're getting into the pack and making rapid progress, so it is an
era of very rapid progress and we've got to progress as well as our
competitors if we want to have a hope of winning another race this year.
Q. (Benny Casadei Il Giornale) Ross, which is the most important thing you
learned at Ferrari that you are applying leading your new team?
RB: Non mollare mai you never give up and there were times over the winter
when it was easy to think this was actually not worth it. It was very, very
difficult at times. The great thing, I must say, is that the team stuck
together. I've said before, I had some black days over the winter. Luckily
they didn't coincide with Nick's black days or some of the other management
team's black days.
As I said at the beginning, the support from McLaren and Mercedes was
exceptional. They didn't know whether we were going to make it or not but
they just gave us 110 percent all the time. There was no doubt from their
side that they were going to give us everything we wanted. So if I took
something from Ferrari and from Luca (di Montezemolo) and Jean Todt and
Michael (Schumacher), it was just never give up.
Q. (Chris Lines Associated Press) I want to ask all four guys what they
think of the speed and method of Formula One's decision-making with
penalties with the Hamilton-Trulli situation, with the diffuser situation.
Is there any way these can be sped up? Fans attend the race or they watch on
TV thinking they've seen one result; they get home and it's completely
changed. Is there anything you can think of to improve that process?
JH: I suppose fundamentally FIA is the Federation, it's their championship
and it's their right to determine how they manage it. It could be something
that FOTA, if the members so desired, could try to discuss openly with the
Federation, but I think one has to respect the fact that as in football, the
stewards are there and appointed and have the right to decide, and I think
it's something that could be expressed as a future opportunity to improve
but I don't believe it's something that we have the right to really
interfere with directly.
AP: Yeah, I think one has to distinguish between the sporting regulations
and the technical regulations. I think the sporting regulations, you have to
try and sort it out as quickly as possible and the only reason to come back
at any distance from the race is if there's new evidence that is very
significant. On the technical side, I think it's extremely difficult because
obviously over the winter or before that, we're developing cars, we're
seeking clarifications from the FIA as to how to interpret rules or
confirming that we've correctly understood them and it's not necessarily
until we come up to the new season that people get a sense of what other
people are doing.
And then the process demands that you protest after an event or during an
event or after scrutineering. If you look at the process we're going through
now, we were protested on the Thursday which was the first opportunity that
anybody had to do it. It was well signalled by the teams that they would do
that, very transparently, and we've now got a hearing which is exactly 16
days after that process. You need eight days for the submissions from the
appellants and eight days to respond, and I think anything less than that
would be very difficult. It may look like a very long drawn-out process but
I think it's dictated by the nature of the sport.
RB: I think it is always a bit unfortunate when fans go away and there's
still debate going on about decisions and I wish it were possible to walk
away from a race that was black and white but it's a very complicated sport,
particularly when you start to move into the technical side. I think the
process that we're going through is fair and proper. I've been on the wrong
side of protests and appeals, I've been on the right side of protests and
appeals and it is a very, very complicated sport, and particularly with new
regulations coming in, three teams took an interpretation which they're very
comfortable with and several other teams aren't happy with that
interpretation. It has to be resolved, so I think the process is as good as
it can be. On the sporting side, even if you make a final decision and it's
the wrong decision that's probably worse than it being a good decision that
takes a little bit longer.
MW: I'm afraid, no particular ideas, but I think inevitably that we have to
try and get everyone to work together, the teams and the Federation, to
ensure that we find ways to shorten that process because clearly we
recognise that it's not the best thing for the sport but I think the teams
are as much a part of that as the Federation. We've perhaps got to be more
transparent, more clear in our dealings with the sporting body, so I think
we shouldn't be looking to any one party, we're all part of this sport and
we've got to look at how we can contribute to improving it.
Q. (Jon McEvoy The Daily Mail) Where do Lewis and his manager stand with
the team at the moment, how are relations between them and you and whether
their reaction to what's gone on was the factor in Dave Ryan going and
whether it's still a factor in how you're evaluating your next step as well?
MW: No, it's not a factor. Lewis is not only a very committed member of the
team, he's a long-standing friend of many of us in the team who have known
him since he was a lad. Anthony is similarly well-regarded. They are solid
supporters of the team, consider themselves to be part of it.
They weren't involved in the sad decision with Dave Ryan, they learned after
the event, Lewis didn't know until after P1 this morning. So they had no
bearing on it, they weren't involved in it. We have to manage the business,
they know and understand that and I would say the relationship at the
moment, it's a very difficult time for the team. We've got to make sure that
we come out of it understanding and learning and hopefully with even
stronger relationships than we started with.
Q. (Dieter Rencken The Citizen) Ross, I wonder whether you could clarify
some points please. After your restructure, will the team be a small big
team or a big small team? Secondly, for what reason was the team accepted as
a new team and not a continuation of the Honda team? And then finally, with
regard to the commercial Concorde Agreement, where the team stands in that
regard at this point?
RB: Well, I hope it's both. I hope it's a big small team and a small big
team. In terms of the structuring, we looked very carefully at where we felt
performance came from, reliability. We will be pretty lean in terms of the
number of spares we carry. I think we've got 55 people here whereas last
year we would have had 90 at a race. So it's a different era for us but one
which is quite exciting and quite challenging.
There will be times when we will be very frustrated, because we can't do
something that we would have liked to do and that was a luxury and a nice
thing, and I don't mean travelling at the sharp end of the plane, I mean the
engineering things that we were able to do with the number of people and the
budgets that we had before. With regard to the entry, the FIA determined
that we were a new entry. I understand the reasons why they made that
decision and we respect that. On the commercial side, it's not something I
feel I want to comment on but something I would say that FOTA has been very
supportive of, and FOM in finding a solution, to give the team the best
chance of a way forward in the future.
Q. (Paolo Ianieri La Gazzetta dello Sport) There's one thing that I don't
understand very much, Mr Whitmarsh. Does it mean that you only learned this
morning from Mr Ryan that he was not entirely truthful, because yesterday
when you talked to us, it was something completely different, and it was
after you read what the stewards sent out as a press release that you saw
there was some inconsistency from what you said and what you knew?
MW: I think in these situations people strive to convince themselves that
they have been entirely true and honest in all of their answers and of
course you can technically answer something and convince yourself that it is
truth. Dave was clear that he had not lied and we believed that. As we dealt
with the unfolding situation of yesterday, the more that we discussed it,
the more that we believed that the answers that were given were not full and
honest in the way that we would expect them to be. |