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Trouble In (Surfers) Paradise?
By Andrew Cutler
August 13 2008
When the IRL's tenative 2009 IndyCar Series schedule came out recently, we were told that a date for the street race at Surfers Paradise, Australia was still being negotiated with the local sanctioning authorities. The IRL has reportedly proposed two dates; one, in March, would make the event the season opener: the other, in September, would tie in logistically with the race in Motegi, Japan.

Now Tony Cochrane, the head of the V8 Supercars Series, which has traditionally shared weekend the bill with CART & the CCWS, has written an open letter blasting the IRL for trying to alter the date from it's usual October slot. The gist of his arguement is that both of the proposed alternative dates clash with other noteworthy Australian sporting events & that, if the IRL management will not relent in their efforts to alter the date, the local government should seek out other motorsports series - most likely meaning A1GP - to take IndyCar's place on the bill.

Here is a link to his full letter: http://www.crash.net/motorsport/indycar/news/167539-0/v8_boss_surfers_paradise_missive_-_in_full.html

How this situation gets resolved could play a big role in whether or not the IndyCar Series is able to grow it's currently small international following anytime soon. The Surfers Paradise race has long been one of the more well-attended events on the old CART/CCWS circut, & Tony George made keeping it a priority when the IRL/CCWS unification occured earlier this year. To lose it now, or to keep it as an "exhibition" race, with no championship points awarded, would be a public relations blow to the series.

Another issue that is entangled in this is the future of the KV Racing Technology squad. Kevin Kalkhoven, an Australian citizen, has considerable sponsorship backing from Australian companies. He has reportedly told Tony that, if Surfers were to disappear from the schedule, his team's continued participation in IndyCar would be in jeporady.

I will keep eveyone apprised as this situation develops.  

 

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Trouble In (Surfers) Paradise?
Posted by: Indy Racing League (IP Logged)
Date: 13/08/2008 14:19

Trouble In (Surfers) Paradise?

Re: Trouble In (Surfers) Paradise?
Posted by: Neith (IP Logged)
Date: 14/08/2008 07:10

IMO, the IRL will never become an international racing series for a very simple reason: they don't want to!

They had to leave Surfers on this year's calendar when they shut down Champ Car, but for the time being I can't see much chance for Surfers becoming an IRL race in the future. I'm sorry for those Australian fans who like the IRL.
I think, the responsibles of Surfers should contact A1GP and organise a race weekend together with them. The series has been running only for a few years, but it's already a far better series than the IRL. And with the new car and the rule changes it'll be even better this year and in the future respectively (Sm14)

Re: Trouble In (Surfers) Paradise?
Posted by: IndyAndy (IP Logged)
Date: 14/08/2008 12:52

Quote:
Neith
IMO, the IRL will never become an international racing series for a very simple reason: they don't want to!

I think that you are pretty close to the mark with that statement: I don't doubt that the Tony wouldn't mind a couple of international events each year IF he can make them "fit", meaning that they make logistical sense & they don't prove out to be where the championship is likely decided.

At the end of the day, the IRL has learned the lesson of the CCWS' demise; there is nothing to be gained by trying to fight for an audience share where F1 & A1GP are already established.

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Re: Trouble In (Surfers) Paradise?
Posted by: sessions (IP Logged)
Date: 15/08/2008 02:15

Sad but true, but I'd sure like to see the IRL become more respected on a global level. Sure changes would have to be made that would most likely cost way too much money, but what the hey, in for a penny, in for a pound.
They could begin by at least making the format more like the other world open wheeled racers. That could possibly help spark more interest, and create a competition, (Americans love competition) No ?
Adding to that thought, the A1GP could possibly be mimicked for a few seasons and see if any cross over races could be incorporated into the schedule. Kind of like a student exchange program.(you try our tracks, we'll try yours.
If something like that could somehow be done, maybe, North America could become a true feeder to F1. We may then start to see Americans in the line up on a more frequent basis.
IRL wouldn't be challenging others on their tuff as Champ Car tried, but joining ranks on an international level.
Just food for thought, but it could be a start

Sessions



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Re: Trouble In (Surfers) Paradise?
Posted by: Neith (IP Logged)
Date: 15/08/2008 09:55

Quote:
IndyAndy
At the end of the day, the IRL has learned the lesson of the CCWS' demise; there is nothing to be gained by trying to fight for an audience share where F1 & A1GP are already established.

From what I heard, there were a lot of European racing fans, who were interested in Champ Car. I think, CC had an increasing fan base in Europe.
One of the reasons for CC's success in Europe was the fan-friendly attitude. At some F1 GPs you don't even have the opportunity to see and meet your fave drivers or the team you support. It's a quite disrespectful behaviour from the F1 circus, IMO...

European fans LOVE racing. And European CC fans were/are very disappointed about the farce that the IRL still calls "merger". Especially those, who wanted to go to this years European races in Assen, Zandvoort and Jerez.
Even I wanted to go at least to 2 of these races, when some fans told me about Champ Car - I was ready to give CC a chance to convince me and I was ready to become a fan. Everything was planned... I hate it, if someone ruins my plans.

Fact is, Mr. George and his series let many many fans down, not only in the USA, but in Europe and other parts of the world, as well... The really sad thing is, it didn't even come into their mind to say "we are sorry for those fans, who wanted to go to races we cancelled due to the merger" or something like that. Nothing demonstrates better than this, that the IRL wants to be only a national series, and therefore it will always stay a national racing series.

And what shall I, the simple European fan, do with a national US racing series? Why should it be interesting for me? Why should I find a racing series interesting, which I can't attend because it's too far away, and I can't even watch it on TV, because the broadcast in Europe is a cr*p?
It's more than obvious that the IRL wants to attract only US people. Their life will always be only about trying to battle Nascar for the sponsors and the TV ratings... But it seems that not even US people are interested in IRL. There are photos on the internet taken at different IRL events - and the grandstands are empty! These empty grandstands demonstrate the lack of interest, unless the IRL has decided to roll behind closed gates, and they don't allow fans to attend the sessions...

I watched the press conf on the internet, when they announced the "merger". My very first impression was when I heard those guys, that they don't have an idea what they're going to do next! They had absolutely zero plans! In that moment it was clear for me, that the only reason for the "merger" was to get rid of Champ Car, so that the IRL could survive. In the weeks after the announcement I still thought "What a chaos! They want to be a proper racing series?! They want to attract fans and sponsors with this chaos?!"
I don't follow the IRL closely, but this trouble with Surfers and what I read about the races here and there tell me that nothing has changed, and the IRL is still a chaos series both on track and away from it...

Of course this is only my own opinion - an outsider's opinion, as I'm not a fan of any former or current US racing series. Of course I'm aware that nobody in IRL cares, but as an average racing fan I also represent a potential fan base, and I know there are many fans around the world, who think like me...

Re: Trouble In (Surfers) Paradise?
Posted by: IndyAndy (IP Logged)
Date: 15/08/2008 12:35

@Neith

I hope that one day the IRL will find a way to make a stop (or 2) in Europe again, but you have to understand just how finanically strapped the series is right now, from top to bottom. Many of these teams are barely hanging on. For the time being, the IRL needs to concentrate on getting a firmer financial base set up & figure out just what sort of a series (in terms of chassis/engine specs & crafting a well-balanced schedule) it wants to present itself as. Then, hopefully in a couple of years, it can look for opportunities to race in Europe.

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Re: Trouble In (Surfers) Paradise?
Posted by: sessions (IP Logged)
Date: 16/08/2008 17:34

Both sides of what is being discussed are true, but Tony George has done severe damage to open wheel racing in North America IMO. He's a home grown American with little global sympathy.
Maybe it's in the Name "GEORGE", because another GEORGE we all know is also pretty lame on global issues.
I wish it was CART that bought out the IRL, I'd surely have a lot more faith in its future.
Guys like Paul Newman (bless him) are needed in the sport, They'll stand up and not bend to the likes of guys like George by refusing to enter his car in Tony's 500.
Yes I know, that the whole thing is totally driven by the dollar bill; that's unfortunate, because the outcome is it's turning things into a business only, and not a sport.
Neith has pointed this out in his by comparison of CART's good attitude versus the coldness towards the fans demonstrated by F1.
It's really sad and upsets me because there is room for a very vibrant open wheeled racing program that could send numbers of Americans into F1, and still coexist with Nascar without stealing each others thunder.
I guess we'll just have to hope the North American viewer realizes this tragedy before it's too late, again.

Sessions



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