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Peter Thomas On Scrum V

Peter Thomas On Scrum V
By Andrew Collins March 30 2008
Cardiff Blues Chairman, Peter Thomas, was interviewed by Scum V this week, ahead of the Heineken Cup Quarter Final match with Toulouse. The former Cardiff RFC player was questioned on the big match, future success and the current transfer recruitment from the Southern Hemisphere.

The round-up of what Thomas said was;

* We're always talking to the best in the world, from New Zealand, Australia, South Africa and the South Sea Islands, whether we're successful in signing the or not remains to be seen.

* We want to be consistently in the top tier and competing with the best year in year out. The Cardiff Blues need to establish themselves as a European force to be reckoned with.

* We're one or two positions away from being up there with the best, recruitment is based on those positions.

* 90% of the current squad are Welsh, and a lot have come through the academies. We want to develop Welsh boys through the academy

* Toulouse make 40% of their income through sponsors alone, the Blues are nowhere near that, but hope to get nearer that figure in the next few seasons as they become able to offer better facilities.

* This team CAN win in Toulouse, the forwards have been magnificent and as long as they play to the best of their ability, there's no reason why they can't.

In the studio afterwards, the pundits said we're looking at getting a Southern Hemisphere fly half as well as potentially 2 flankers, despite most pundits views that tight-head prop, srcum half and fly half remain the positions of most weakness.

The Blues are currently being linked to Aled Brew, Ceri Sweeney and Richard Mustoe, while it's thought only the first name has actually put pen to paper. In terms of Southern Hemispehere players, scrum half Matt Henjak is a name being touted, though he's expected to join former Australia coach Eddie Jones at Saracens. In terms of Thomas' ambition, it's worth remembering that we may well be talking to Dan carter, who is being linked to Europe, but actually getting the man is another thing altogether.

He is quoted on BBC Sport as saying;

"When you get an opportunity to look at the very best players in the world you've got to look at them and I'm telling you we are looking at the very best players in the world. When opportunities arise to fill certain positions from other parts of the world - be it the southern hemisphere - I assure you we are bang in there and seeing if it fits our jigsaw."

I'm sure this will cause a fair bit of debate, look forward to seeing your comments below!

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Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: DRY (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:18:04:26

Until there's any meat on the plate (or in the pasties come to think of it) then i shall take theinterview with a pinch of salt. (Sm119)(Sm120)

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: StockyBlue (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:18:36:02

I'm not a fan of PT especially concerning the whole charade with Stade de Risdale.

I also agree with Dry that there was no substance in the interview at all. Very wish washy. Nothing was said above what you'd expect him say.

But to be honest did anyone acutally expect him to start reeling off big names who we are about to approach? It would be commercial suicide.

I guess, as usual, we will be the last to know and as usual will have to wait and see what's around the corner.....just hope the wait is not in vain and we actually get new players that address the current weaknesses.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: DRY (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:18:56:07

Agree 100% StockyBlue, i never really expected PT to come out with anything useful in the interview. Infact the more i think about it the more i am thinking just WHAT was the point of the interview in the first place ???? Answers on the back of a Peter's sausage roll wrapper please to BBC Wales. (Sm64)

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: S A Brained (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:19:06:50

Peter thomas said "Wubble" but was stopped putting his underpants over his head and two pencil up his nose by Lord Melchett of Gower.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: ExiledinStaffs (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:20:20:07

He's been saying exactly the same thing for the past few years.

In reaction to a couple of the points above, I really don't think we need any more back row players. In my opinions we've got the best back row (1st choce and backups) in Wales (pending fitness).

Also, Dan Carter is never going to leave New Zealand, for 2 reasons: 1. He's NZ's golden boy; 2. He wont be able to play for NZ and he'd be mad to do that at this time in his carreer. And anyway, why the hell would someone like Dan Carter come to the Blues, when there's at least a dozen more appealing clubs in the Northern hemisphere than us. Lets be realistic.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: DRY (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:20:58:02

Nick Evans would be a more realistic signing for the Blues. Would have limited options at 10 for NZ with Carter staying fit. Tight head is also a priority. i have no idea who they might look at (Sm56)

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: cardiffsteve (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:22:26:39

I feel sorry for Peter Thomas. The constant criticism is that he isn't ambitious enough. He gives an interview in which he talks about signing big players and making cardiff Blues into a big european team and he still gets criticism.

I don't suppose he bothers reading internet message boards but if he does he's probably thinking "I can't win with this lot".

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: Rocky (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:30:23:03:55

Quote:
cardiffsteve
...he's probably thinking "I can't win with this lot".

He's probably right. Perhaps he should let someone else have a go.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:03:30:23:04:29 by Rocky.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: Cardiff Boo's (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:10:48:09

The BIG problem is that talk is all he does he spouts the same rubbish every time he is interviewed and nothing ever changes.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: theArmsPark.co.uk Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:12:57:23

Quote:
ExiledinStaffs
Also, Dan Carter is never going to leave New Zealand, for 2 reasons: 1. He's NZ's golden boy; 2. He wont be able to play for NZ and he'd be mad to do that at this time in his career. And anyway, why the hell would someone like Dan Carter come to the Blues, when there's at least a dozen more appealing clubs in the Northern hemisphere than us. Lets be realistic.

It was meant more as an example that we're not getting the big names in than actually saying we're talking to him. The point being, he can talk to the best players in the world all he likes, but its not doing us any good until we get them to join our club.

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Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: theArmsPark.co.uk Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:12:59:12

Quote:
cardiffsteve
I feel sorry for Peter Thomas. The constant criticism is that he isn't ambitious enough. He gives an interview in which he talks about signing big players and making cardiff Blues into a big european team and he still gets criticism.
I don't suppose he bothers reading internet message boards but if he does he's probably thinking "I can't win with this lot".

Well he can win, he can win if he makes the big name signings and gets the Blues in a state of financial independence.

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Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: Rocky (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:13:16:54

Quote:
theArmsPark.co.uk Admin
Quote:
cardiffsteve
I feel sorry for Peter Thomas. The constant criticism is that he isn't ambitious enough. He gives an interview in which he talks about signing big players and making cardiff Blues into a big european team and he still gets criticism.
I don't suppose he bothers reading internet message boards but if he does he's probably thinking "I can't win with this lot".

Well he can win, he can win if he makes the big name signings and gets the Blues in a state of financial independence.

Not sure what you're referring to there. I'd argue he can only win if he provides security for the club and makes the off the field changes that will ensure success.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: theArmsPark.co.uk Admin (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:13:49:13

Isn't that essentially what i said?

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Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: Rocky (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:15:19:45

Quote:
theArmsPark.co.uk Admin
Isn't that essentially what i said?

I indicated not being sure what you meant. I've seen 'financially independant' from people talking about 'WRU funding' etc.

Confusion aside I agree.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: ExiledinStaffs (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:15:44:20

I get you admin.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: DRY (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:15:46:59

Talk is cheap. when PT shows the same ambition as the ospreys then i'll cheer him. the ospreys went out and signed tommy bowe ready for next season. no bother, no false promises, THEY JUST SIGNED HIM !!!!

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: larryblues1010 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:16:56:24

Quote:
DRY
Talk is cheap. when PT shows the same ambition as the ospreys then i'll cheer him. the ospreys went out and signed tommy bowe ready for next season. no bother, no false promises, THEY JUST SIGNED HIM !!!!

As we have done with Brew and Mustoe

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: StockyBlue (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:18:17:31

Quote:
larryblues1010
Quote:
DRY
Talk is cheap. when PT shows the same ambition as the ospreys then i'll cheer him. the ospreys went out and signed tommy bowe ready for next season. no bother, no false promises, THEY JUST SIGNED HIM !!!!

As we have done with Brew and Mustoe

I'm guessing that there was a massive slab of sarcasim in that post??? (Sm141)

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: DRY (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:03:31:19:16:43

I'm guessing that too. If not then is there a doctor in the house (or on the messageboard) ????? (Sm54)

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: Reservoir Prop (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:01:13:08:21

I fully expect him to run the squad down a little and only sign new quality players when he jumps into be with Risdale. He'll have to do something to boost attendances given that the board are already expecting a 1,000 a week drop if they get their wish.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: NRisMyHero (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:10:12:01:03

we did sign the best player in rugby union ever a few seasons ago.

granted he turned out to be@#$%&in the end...

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: mackumblues (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:10:12:38:52

To whom are you referring.

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: NRisMyHero (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:10:13:44:51

big jonah!

Re: Peter Thomas On Scrum V
Posted by: mackumblues (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:10:13:58:34

Ok Lomu was nothing but a cheap publicity stunt aimed at getting a lot of gullible people through the turnstiles when he signed.

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