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Re: Malaysian GP - Race
rpralon 25 March, 2012 15:56
I guess that Sauber engineer on the radio broke Perez's concentration with that talk of "we need the points, bla,bla". The Mexican driver deserved the victory but the team management think small. It shows why Sauber have only one victory ( as BMW Sauber with Kubica) in almost 20 year in F1.

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Mikef1 25 March, 2012 16:25
Well I must say the pace after the re-start was very good and I had given up on all hope of points (as is understandable when you think of the last two cars we've had) so to see Senna make such a good charge (even though I tensed and flinched at every overtake attempt) and Maldonado also ALMOST make it into the points was quite exciting. Can't help but wonder what kind of positions we could have been fighting for without
>Maldonado damaging the car in qualifying and causing Senna to abort his lap
>Senna crashing on the first lap
>Maldonado messing up his outlap
>Maldonado missing his pit box
With these driver errors being ironed out we have potential to do really well. Still, we can beat force India to sixth and would be joined 5th with Lotus if not for Pastor's mistake in Melbourne (Big trend of mistakes here)

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Darron 25 March, 2012 16:30
A great result today - but you still have that niggling thing in the back of your mind - without the mistakes what could have been achieved.

Shame for Perez, but i guess if he had gone for the win, it would've stopped him replacing Massa and made Sauber look for a new engine... or is that me being cynical(Sm125)

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Ozzy Osbone 25 March, 2012 17:18
Most drivers made some mistakes today.

I'm a little confused to read this thread as I recorded the race and have just watched it. I was pretty impressed with Senna's driver through the pack. Some very nice overtakes there and he looked to be smooth and under control.

I suspect the anti-Senna brigade are having a bit of a hard time with him totally out-driving Pastor today.

How come 6th would have been a great result in Aus (if Pastor hadn't thrown it away) but it's a@#$%&result here? Very odd indeed.

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
TerraNova19 25 March, 2012 17:25
Xevi Pujolar ‏ @xevipujolar Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#Sepang #F1 Not much to say about today. I don't believe on luck, I think averyone need to look for its own luck but today we didn't find it

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
TerraNova19 25 March, 2012 17:26
Xevi Pujolar ‏ @xevipujolar Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#Sepang #F1 a mix of conditions with Inter/Wet/dry tyres. Strong performance on any tyre but specially on dry towards the end.

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Mikef1 25 March, 2012 17:26
Quote:
Ozzy Osbone
Most drivers made some mistakes today.
I'm a little confused to read this thread as I recorded the race and have just watched it. I was pretty impressed with Senna's driver through the pack. Some very nice overtakes there and he looked to be smooth and under control.

I suspect the anti-Senna brigade are having a bit of a hard time with him totally out-driving Pastor today.

How come 6th would have been a great result in Aus (if Pastor hadn't thrown it away) but it's a@#$%&result here? Very odd indeed.

I'm not a specific fan of either of them and I don't think the complaints are unjust. Nobody is saying it is a bad result, people are merely speculating that had the two drivers not come together and had Maldonado not been an absolute retard and missed his pitstop/messed up his out lap, we could have gone a lot better.

I think naturally now that we are fighting for points regularly, nobody is going to be happy with any result we get as we will always believe we could have gone one better.

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
TerraNova19 25 March, 2012 17:26
Xevi Pujolar ‏ @xevipujolar Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#Sepang Lost a lot of positions when due to poor visibility, busy pitlane and Pastor missed pitstop box so he had to go out and pit again

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
TerraNova19 25 March, 2012 17:27
Xevi Pujolar ‏ @xevipujolar Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#Sepang even with the Pitstop problem, with strong pace recovered positions to P10 coming very strong but then engine problem and retired

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
TerraNova19 25 March, 2012 17:55
Senna, competing in only his second grand prix with the team, rewarded Williams's improved pace this season by scoring their first points - eight of them, for a sixth-placed finish - a total that is more than Sir Frank Williams's team managed in the whole of 2011.
"When conditions are like this, it's a bit of a lottery," said Senna. "The team did a good job and the car was working so well with intermediates.
"I was able to adapt fast to the conditions but in the next races, I want to make it more easy to score points. I now need to work on my qualifying and dry pace."
Senna's team-mate Pastor Maldonado's bad luck continued, however, as his engine failed with two laps remaining.
"I had an engine problem but this is racing," he said. "It was a complicated race from the beginning for me. I tried to do my best. I was pushing so hard from the beginning just to get points.
"We need [a result] because the team is doing a very good job and the car is much better than last year."

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
peterl 25 March, 2012 17:59
Guys and Gals.

The car is obviously an improvement on last year (FW33) and while I can see some of the arguments offered my guess will be for around 40 points this year minimun. Coughlan,gillie and the rest should be congratulated and perhaps the old guard so to speak just had not moved with the times.

Regards



Peterl

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Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Darron 25 March, 2012 18:16
Are the Williams pit crew all in the same overalls?

Mercedes have changed one of their crew, think it's the front jack man, his overalls are the Petronas cyan, maybe Williams should do similar as ours and STR's overalls are very similar shame Pastor didn't go fully into the STR box, as he could have gone straight forward a-la-Button last year

We used to have one of the crew in yellow when Petrobras was a sponsor/supplier

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
GroveF1 25 March, 2012 18:27
I would hope the 3-week break will allow Maldonado and Senna to reflect on the errors of the last 2 Grands Prix.

There is no doubt that they drove well today and the team and drivers have to be congratulated for this. But yes they need to "iron out" the errors currently happening with the drivers as well as the team strategy errors.

Congratulations and a mention also has to be given to Mike Coughlan, Jason Somerville and Mark Gillan for the turnaround they have done at Williams compared to the situation last year.

Do any of you think we would be challenging for the Top 6 if Sam was in charge of the FW34? I don't think so, and who do you think we would be blaming if the car was both a dog and the drivers made errors? My guess would be the Technial team.

Give the drivers time to cut out the errors.

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Ozzy Osbone 25 March, 2012 18:37
I agree. I'm no fan of Pastor but I have decided to get behing the guy. I believe Bruno is seriously under-rated. I think he did a cracking job today despite a few errors.

Lest we forget that Alonso and Kimi stuffed up quali on Aus. JB made an error today. Hamilton made plenty last year. Vettel managed to crash while lapping today.

My view is that Pastor had great race pace in Aus and Bruno drove a great race today. The difference is that one brought home the bacon and the other didn't which is totally what I expected pre-season.

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Darron 25 March, 2012 18:53
Karthikeyan has been penalised for the collision with Vettel, but wasn't it Vettel who pulled infront of him while lapping him, before he was fully ahead?

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Mikef1 25 March, 2012 18:59
Yeah one of Vettel's rare mistakes. It appeared to me 100% Vettel's fault

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Willosh 25 March, 2012 19:03
Our two drivers do make a bunch of mistakes - but their mistakes are more the silly sort rather than major issues.

They both showed great overtaking today and good race craft.
Bruno needs to work on his qualifying pace and Pastor needs to keep in on the black stuff but I think they both have a lot of potential.

Two races in a row Bruno has been dead last but this time he clawed it back thanks to the safety car and then put the FW34 to good use overtaking everyone up to Kimi. Pastor's recovery was pretty darn good too.

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
GPL 25 March, 2012 19:20
The FW34 did well today again, drivers screwed up again today.
I think both our drivers need a good dressing down when they get back to grove and the dust has settled.
They are both driving like amateurs
They are not worthy of this car as yet.

But nice to see a small haul of points on the board.

Looks like we are about .5 of a second short on qualie and race pace with these drivers, maybe a better driver could halve that margin??

Re: Malaysian GP - Race
PeterGr 25 March, 2012 19:23
Orocairion Are you for real?



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Re: Malaysian GP - Race
Ozzy Osbone 25 March, 2012 19:41
That's totally out of order and a disgusting thing to write.

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