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Re: News and Stuff!
Mikef1 08 December, 2018 17:25
Yeah Williams and Toyota had the same gear, but the changes to the regulations were far more comprehensive. A better example would be Williams' blown wheel nut after the regulstions which prohibited the tech. Still find it infuriating that almost every team on the grid was able to do them better than Williams themselves who gave up on it. it gave Sauber a huge performance increase to have the blown wheel nuts, something like 3 tenths.

Re: News and Stuff!
ihme 09 December, 2018 13:47
Were the problems with the car too big to solve in one season?

Kubica: We had one big problem that kept track of our car throughout the year and pushed the lap times. We have solved some other things. But if there are difficulties in a very complex area of ​​the car, then you focus on it. It was a difficult season for Williams, but also an important one. We have understood the mistakes and now have to learn from them and not repeat them.

What input did you give?

Kubica: [...]Nevertheless, we made good progress, especially in the second half of the season, especially in the simulator. At the beginning of the season we still had correlation problems. These deviations between the tools and the reality led in the end also to the misjudgment of the car. We really thought we had a good car. The simulator is indeed fed with data coming from other departments. It took time for us to sort it out. If Williams develops more in that direction, it can become an important tool.

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Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar 09 December, 2018 16:51
Well, all we hear these days are somehow nothing new.

Wolff told the same thing about us,last year after car lunches.He use to talk bs alot.

Kubica telling there were correlation issues which is something we knew since the beginning of the year.No one goes to try to design a car with stall in aero.So clearly the problem was in correlation.We don't need to be experts to know it.

Is it solved? Yes & No...He says yes and then asks for improvement on that side...Though we can't expect from a driver to know how the tunnel will work when it's a question mark for aero experts even in bigger teams too.



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Re: News and Stuff!
Mikef1 09 December, 2018 22:17
Quote:
ihme
Were the problems with the car too big to solve in one season?
Kubica: We had one big problem that kept track of our car throughout the year and pushed the lap times. We have solved some other things. But if there are difficulties in a very complex area of ​​the car, then you focus on it. It was a difficult season for Williams, but also an important one. We have understood the mistakes and now have to learn from them and not repeat them.

What input did you give?

Kubica: [...]Nevertheless, we made good progress, especially in the second half of the season, especially in the simulator. At the beginning of the season we still had correlation problems. These deviations between the tools and the reality led in the end also to the misjudgment of the car. We really thought we had a good car. The simulator is indeed fed with data coming from other departments. It took time for us to sort it out. If Williams develops more in that direction, it can become an important tool.

[translate.google.com]

Williams uploaded a video of Lance midseason I'm the simulator. His lap time on that qualifying run was good enough for 6th. If the car had worked as planned, it would indeed have been a very good car. There were some suggestions of good pace at times but th car was ultimately as bad as the fw33 and fw35.

Re: News and Stuff!
Williams-123 10 December, 2018 02:01
Did anyone ever find out what actually happened to the old 12000 + News and Stuff thread (Sm55)

I noticed Andrew has not posted in this thread to say what happened to it, if he even knows what happened to it (Sm55)

Anyone know (Sm55)

Re: News and Stuff!
Gunk 10 December, 2018 04:14
Quote:
Mehryar
Well, all we hear these days are somehow nothing new.
Wolff told the same thing about us,last year after car lunches.He use to talk bs alot.

Kubica telling there were correlation issues which is something we knew since the beginning of the year.No one goes to try to design a car with stall in aero.So clearly the problem was in correlation.We don't need to be experts to know it.

Is it solved? Yes & No...He says yes and then asks for improvement on that side...Though we can't expect from a driver to know how the tunnel will work when it's a question mark for aero experts even in bigger teams too.

Maybe not only the tunnel . . . can also occur with the interaction of CAD and CFD? McLaren said recently they would have introduced a B spec car, but it took too long to recognise the exact nature of the problem . . .

If inherent to Williams in-house tools, why sack De Beer? Sounds like a lack of some internal checks and balances were also involved.

Re: News and Stuff!
Francesc 10 December, 2018 10:03
Quote:
Mikef1
Quote:
ihme
Were the problems with the car too big to solve in one season?
Kubica: We had one big problem that kept track of our car throughout the year and pushed the lap times. We have solved some other things. But if there are difficulties in a very complex area of ​​the car, then you focus on it. It was a difficult season for Williams, but also an important one. We have understood the mistakes and now have to learn from them and not repeat them.

What input did you give?

Kubica: [...]Nevertheless, we made good progress, especially in the second half of the season, especially in the simulator. At the beginning of the season we still had correlation problems. These deviations between the tools and the reality led in the end also to the misjudgment of the car. We really thought we had a good car. The simulator is indeed fed with data coming from other departments. It took time for us to sort it out. If Williams develops more in that direction, it can become an important tool.

[translate.google.com]

Williams uploaded a video of Lance midseason I'm the simulator. His lap time on that qualifying run was good enough for 6th. If the car had worked as planned, it would indeed have been a very good car. There were some suggestions of good pace at times but th car was ultimately as bad as the fw33 and fw35.

23.2. Would have been mixing with the Haas.

Re: News and Stuff!
Mikef1 10 December, 2018 16:45
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Francesc
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Mikef1
Quote:
ihme
Were the problems with the car too big to solve in one season?
Kubica: We had one big problem that kept track of our car throughout the year and pushed the lap times. We have solved some other things. But if there are difficulties in a very complex area of ​​the car, then you focus on it. It was a difficult season for Williams, but also an important one. We have understood the mistakes and now have to learn from them and not repeat them.

What input did you give?

Kubica: [...]Nevertheless, we made good progress, especially in the second half of the season, especially in the simulator. At the beginning of the season we still had correlation problems. These deviations between the tools and the reality led in the end also to the misjudgment of the car. We really thought we had a good car. The simulator is indeed fed with data coming from other departments. It took time for us to sort it out. If Williams develops more in that direction, it can become an important tool.

[translate.google.com]

Williams uploaded a video of Lance midseason I'm the simulator. His lap time on that qualifying run was good enough for 6th. If the car had worked as planned, it would indeed have been a very good car. There were some suggestions of good pace at times but th car was ultimately as bad as the fw33 and fw35.

23.2. Would have been mixing with the Haas.

That's right. Pretty sure that's where most teams had them after the first pre season test and where Williams had suggested they were themselves.

Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar 10 December, 2018 17:06
@Gunk
I strongly believe sacking of DeBeer was a try to satisfy Stroll Sr or SMP or Maybe or whatever investor in the team & give the impression that the team status has been down to 1-2 indivduals to make them stay.
Anyway you look at it, there's no logic to sack a boss, in any departement after one single try and I don't think Claire or Paddy has been stupid enough to not know it.



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Re: News and Stuff!
Williams-123 10 December, 2018 17:37
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Did anyone ever find out what actually happened to the old 12000 + News and Stuff thread (Sm55)
I noticed Andrew has not posted in this thread to say what happened to it, if he even knows what happened to it (Sm55)

Anyone know (Sm55)

Nobody knows anything about what happened to the 12000 + thread? Nobody?

Re: News and Stuff!
williams4284 11 December, 2018 12:11
Andrew Can you please inform about the previous thread?

Re: News and Stuff!
ihme 11 December, 2018 14:54
Paddy Lowe: "I came to Williams to make a difference. But Formula 1 is team sport. In order to do a good job, we have to be excellently staffed on several posts. My mission is to turn things around. But you can not stick to a schedule. "

"The good thing is: People have recognized this and are working hard. I'm not going to pin that down and say - we'll be in rank in the coming World Cup anyway. But I know we will be better. We have already completed the turnaround."

"There are a hundred reasons - in the race car, in the way we design and develop such a car. That's the point. There is no panacea. There are hundreds of reasons, and we work at all. It's not just about investment, it's about workflow, about design, about corporate culture. It's changing a lot with Williams, but things like that take time."

"First of all, you need changes in the technical department, that's the only way you can build a better car. Then you need changes in the organization, but they do not affect immediately. In addition: The other nine racing teams know what they are doing. Each of these teams is very solid, with the brightest minds from the best universities. They are well managed. That was not always so."

"Williams is too static. We have excellent people with rich experience. We are the third oldest team in Formula 1, and some employees have been with us for many, many years. This shows a strong loyalty, and that goes back to the personalities of Frank Williams and Patrick Head. But that can also be a disadvantage. Sometimes you need a little fresh blood. We have to make sure that skilled workers with a lot of knowledge find a new approach. We are currently on this journey."

"We are in the process of turning upside down. A perfect organization chart does not exist in my opinion. Fortunately, the foundation is right for us. We have Frank, we have experienced and loyal people, we have a great racing car factory. We own our own land and all the buildings, which does not apply to all racing teams. We have a first class wind tunnel. All the ingredients are there. Now it's about how we use them."

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Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar 11 December, 2018 16:52
Tbh if we can read anything from people's words, it shows a dark situation in the team.
1-2 days ago there was an interview with Kubica, saying if Williams has listened to its drivers sooner and believed their reaction after the first test sooner, they could react faster but they didn't.They really believed FW41 was a good car till they were hit by the truth on race track.
Now Paddy nearly puts the blame on everyone's shoulders, blaming everybody, not pointing to the fact that he was the leader of these guys being in wrong places or not performing as they should.Surely every sport is a team work but the leader is the one who's responsible about how his employees work.
Hope they've learnt from all of these things they're talking about.



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Re: News and Stuff!
ihme 11 December, 2018 18:37
Yeah it reads like doom & gloom everywhere but i still think that they will come up with a car miles better than the FW41 but they are trying to not hype anything up and are just working hard to not repeat these huge mistakes with this years monstrosity.
Even if the FW42 will lack downforce like usual with our cars i hope that it will not be a chore to drive and we will just work on the proper aero updates during the 2019 season and keep cool.
All the ingredients are there (even the money - not a huge amount but still enough to have a proper season if the car will come up good).

Re: News and Stuff!
GPL 12 December, 2018 09:51
He is right tho Williams have done nothing for 15 years now.

They need to start from the ground up again.

Sticking plasters springs to mind,and penny pinching.
those things will not work in today,s F1 Racing.

I hope he has the will and chance to bulldoze this team back up the grid with a
new solid foundation of team work and ethics to success.

Re: News and Stuff!
Williams-123 13 December, 2018 11:24
Quote:
GPL
He is right tho Williams have done nothing for 15 years now.
They need to start from the ground up again.

Sticking plasters springs to mind,and penny pinching.
those things will not work in today,s F1 Racing.

I hope he has the will and chance to bulldoze this team back up the grid with a
new solid foundation of team work and ethics to success.

15 years??? Try 20.

Re: News and Stuff!
j-s 14 December, 2018 14:34
The most pressing issue here, as some have noted, is what happened to the old thread.

Re: News and Stuff!
CLOVERLEAF 888 14 December, 2018 18:15
Andrew doesn't seem to want to tell us. Andrew did you delete it by accident?

Re: News and Stuff!
Stu69 15 December, 2018 09:53
Let’s just make this thread a worthy successor to the old one!

Re: News and Stuff!
Mehryar 15 December, 2018 11:19
The old one was like a history of the forum.alot of posters who are not around anymore...like pgj who started it in 2009.



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