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Discussion started by boro1986willliamsf1 , 04 May, 2019 14:34
W series
boro1986willliamsf1 04 May, 2019 14:34
Anybody tuning in I might give if a go



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Re: W series
CLOVERLEAF 888 04 May, 2019 15:44
When does it start?

Re: W series
boro1986willliamsf1 04 May, 2019 16:10
2.45 PM channel 4 UK you'll catch it on 4+1



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Re: W series
IanSmithISA 04 May, 2019 17:06
Good afternoon,

I have taped it.

I am hostile to the idea, but I will watch and learn and confirm or deny my prejudices.


I am old, I remember Nadia Comaneci, a brilliant gymnast but supported to success by state support.

It is a bit like British Cycling, massive amounts of state aid (sorry the National Lottery) well spent can mean success.

Bye

Ian

Re: W series
phatjack 04 May, 2019 18:00
Quote:
IanSmithISA
Good afternoon,
I have taped it.

I am hostile to the idea, but I will watch and learn and confirm or deny my prejudices.


I am old, I remember Nadia Comaneci, a brilliant gymnast but supported to success by state support.

It is a bit like British Cycling, massive amounts of state aid (sorry the National Lottery) well spent can mean success.

Bye

Ian

Ian, considering your old and prejudices aside women in motor sports does appeal to me. it suggests to me given an equal opportunity in a man's sport can demonstrate just as capable.

Re: W series
boro1986willliamsf1 04 May, 2019 18:17
I can see the potential of the series it's about the drivers not the cars one idea I like if you has a fast car one round the next you loose it so it's all about skill lets see how it develops oh and the machanics get moved around



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Re: W series
The Terminator 04 May, 2019 20:45
I watched, it was okay. I like the concept but it is difficult to work out which driver is which due to the way the cars are allocated. To make it more confusing, they will be in different cars each race, so not easy to follow.

Good to see Ted and DC involved in the tv work.

Re: W series
IanSmithISA 05 May, 2019 08:18
Good morning,

I watched it and ended up a little bit confused as I was very unsure what I was watching in absolute performance terms.

If I knew that the winning/pole time was n seconds faster or slower than a known current driver then it would all be clearer, so I think that we need an F1 or top F2/F3 driver taking part on the day to set a reference time.

The risk with this of course would be that the basic idea of the series could be undermined if these reference times were much faster than the competitors'.

Given that this was the first race a lot of drivers would still be getting used to the car and looking at Google shows that Jamie Chadwick is a good driver but not obviously outstanding in the sense of being the next F1 champion.

As the safety car came out the race was just over 20 minutes long and the 8th place driver was 17 seconds of the winning pace, if other races follow the pattern of this one then there will quickly be a large portion of the grid ruling themselves out,leaving only 7 drivers competing for the win.

I can't see the interest in the series being sustained unless there is useful information for the motor sport teams or a TV audience.

The information from the first race is that the those drivers who already have a known public history are winning.

For a TV audience they need to find something to make the viewers care about the races, especially if the series is in the position of there are no driver's careers benefiting from their results in the series.

I have left it on series record so I will probably watch most of the other races, but if I miss any I won't be bothered. :-)

Bye

Ian

Re: W series
Andrew Hooper 05 May, 2019 09:34
Can't watch it here in Australia. Even on their YouTube site they don't have a highlights package which is a bit disappointing.

Re: W series
Williams-123 05 May, 2019 09:52
So is Jamie Chadwick really Lance Stroll?

Re: W series
phatjack 05 May, 2019 11:52
Caitlan Wood is Lance Stroll.

Re: W series
IanSmithISA 06 May, 2019 08:25
Good morning,

Quote:
Andrew Hooper
Can't watch it here in Australia. Even on their YouTube site they don't have a highlights package which is a bit disappointing.

The race is only 30 minutes long so I would expect that the effort needed to create a highlights show would be to great. :-)

I wonder if the whole race will appear on line after a bit of a delay to keep the paying TV companies happy.

It is far, far to early to write the series off, but if you look at the results, and remember that there was a safety car meaning that the actual race was only 20 minutes, then you can probably imagine that the field quickly spread out with a couple of clusters.

[wseries.com] has coverage on channel 10, is this available to you?

Interesting to see that W series have released 2 female mechanics and apparently have said "Sadly, we were unable to continue with the two mechanics concerned, for underperformance reasons."

Actually specifying under performance is pretty unambiguous!

Bye

Ian



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 08:34 by IanSmithISA.

Re: W series
Ozzy Osbone 07 May, 2019 18:52
It was a good race. I do think though that the cars should be faster. Maybe old GP3 spec. 400hp vs 270hp.

It's all based on F3 but as far as I am aware the W cars are around 80hp down on the International F3 spec.

Re: W series
Williams-123 08 May, 2019 04:21
Quote:
Ozzy Osbone
It was a good race. I do think though that the cars should be faster. Maybe old GP3 spec. 400hp vs 270hp.
It's all based on F3 but as far as I am aware the W cars are around 80hp down on the International F3 spec.

So just out of curiosity would these W series cars be faster around a circuit than a Formula E car or would they be slower than a Formula E car??? Anyone know???

Re: W series
Williams-123 08 May, 2019 11:47
Quote:
Williams-123
Quote:
Ozzy Osbone
It was a good race. I do think though that the cars should be faster. Maybe old GP3 spec. 400hp vs 270hp.
It's all based on F3 but as far as I am aware the W cars are around 80hp down on the International F3 spec.

So just out of curiosity would these W series cars be faster around a circuit than a Formula E car or would they be slower than a Formula E car??? Anyone know???

Anyone know???

Re: W series
The Terminator 08 May, 2019 22:19
Quote:
Williams-123
Quote:
Williams-123
Quote:
Ozzy Osbone
It was a good race. I do think though that the cars should be faster. Maybe old GP3 spec. 400hp vs 270hp.
It's all based on F3 but as far as I am aware the W cars are around 80hp down on the International F3 spec.

So just out of curiosity would these W series cars be faster around a circuit than a Formula E car or would they be slower than a Formula E car??? Anyone know???

Anyone know???


Yes Whitey, faster than a formula E car but not as fast as Ricciardo reversing into a Torro Rosso.(Sm22)

Re: W series
boro1986willliamsf1 09 May, 2019 05:52
The cars in W series are currant F3 cars



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Re: W series
Williams-123 09 May, 2019 06:34
Quote:
The Terminator
Quote:
Williams-123
Quote:
Williams-123
Quote:
Ozzy Osbone
It was a good race. I do think though that the cars should be faster. Maybe old GP3 spec. 400hp vs 270hp.
It's all based on F3 but as far as I am aware the W cars are around 80hp down on the International F3 spec.

So just out of curiosity would these W series cars be faster around a circuit than a Formula E car or would they be slower than a Formula E car??? Anyone know???

Anyone know???


Yes Whitey, faster than a formula E car but not as fast as Ricciardo reversing into a Torro Rosso.(Sm22)

Geez formula E cars must be so damn slow if W series cars are faster than them.

Re: W series
The Terminator 20 May, 2019 12:56
Quote:
IanSmithISA
Good morning,
I watched it and ended up a little bit confused as I was very unsure what I was watching in absolute performance terms.

If I knew that the winning/pole time was n seconds faster or slower than a known current driver then it would all be clearer, so I think that we need an F1 or top F2/F3 driver taking part on the day to set a reference time.

The risk with this of course would be that the basic idea of the series could be undermined if these reference times were much faster than the competitors'.

Given that this was the first race a lot of drivers would still be getting used to the car and looking at Google shows that Jamie Chadwick is a good driver but not obviously outstanding in the sense of being the next F1 champion.

As the safety car came out the race was just over 20 minutes long and the 8th place driver was 17 seconds of the winning pace, if other races follow the pattern of this one then there will quickly be a large portion of the grid ruling themselves out,leaving only 7 drivers competing for the win.

I can't see the interest in the series being sustained unless there is useful information for the motor sport teams or a TV audience.

The information from the first race is that the those drivers who already have a known public history are winning.

For a TV audience they need to find something to make the viewers care about the races, especially if the series is in the position of there are no driver's careers benefiting from their results in the series.

I have left it on series record so I will probably watch most of the other races, but if I miss any I won't be bothered. :-)

Bye

Ian



I guess you will not be enjoying the news from Williams this morning.

Re: W series
IanSmithISA 21 May, 2019 07:14
Good morning,

I see two ways of looking at this,
After just two races W Series driver gets promoted to F1
or
W Series driver gets token female F1 driver job,
So which one is closer to the truth?

Did Claire see both races and think wow this is someone we missed or think I like the W Series and want to support it?

There was quite a lot of scepticism when Carmen Jordá Buades was given the Lotus roles and it amounted to nothing.
[www.motorsport.com]
mentioned Beitske Visser who won the second W Series race and was fourth in the first, so this would suggest that Jamie Chadwick who was first and second is going to be at least not disrespected within F1.

It seems pretty unlikely that anyone receiving such an offer could turn it down, but it is only a simulator/pr role.

Given that some FP1 drives for Williams next season are likely to be sold, this is an opportunity to collect sponsorship to cover the cost of those drives, on the other hand when Caterham and Manor were struggling I expected that Suzie Wolff might turn up with a bit of sponsorship.

The sponsors would know that it was only for a few races so there might be a lot of coverage and no risk of season long association if Suzie wasn’t quite fast enough. The same logic might apply to funding FP1 seasons.

So does this tell us anything about Williams and I am worried that it does and it is that the team management still thinks that it can PR its way back to success. :-)

Until Patrick Head makes his opinions known either directly or by changes I am still unsure how much blame goes to Paddy and how much to the rest of the upper management for this year's car, this sort of PR stunt makes me lean towards the Paddy may have been right view.

This appointment could also bite W Series, If 6-12 months from now there is no prospect of at least FP1 drives then we could see a lot of negative headline.

Bye

Ian



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 21/05/2019 07:15 by IanSmithISA.

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