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Re: The All New FW43
GPL 06 March, 2020 11:07
Cheers some good answers.

Do you guys think we are on top of the air flow and correlation problems now or are we still waiting????

Re: The All New FW43
Stuart L 06 March, 2020 11:10
Ive heard lots about the team being better managed and the car being better...but at no point has anyone said correlation is great / improved, much improved.

Other teams that have had correlation issues have been more vocal when they are fixed eg McLaren.

So I sense we arent quite there yet. Wish the journalists would ask this key question to as many people as they can at Williams as this is the key news we want to hear

Re: The All New FW43
GPL 06 March, 2020 11:55
Agreed Mate.
So the jury is still out for now.

Re: The All New FW43
GPL 06 March, 2020 11:55
Double Post.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/03/2020 14:54 by GPL.

Re: The All New FW43
dot_com 06 March, 2020 14:42
Williams still have upgrades planned through the season;

(From RaceFans)

Williams was asked how the team will prioritise development in the 2020 F1 season with a major change in the rules coming next year:

Obviously we started the process when the first draft of the [2021] technical regulations came out in October last year, we started understanding them and understanding the resource that we would need in order to project manage that throughout the course of this year, while also obviously making sure that we developed the FW43.

We have to keep developing the FW43 throughout the course of this year, because this is a critical year for our team. We have to get it right. We have to perform on the race track at each and every race.

So we have a very comprehensive plan of upgrades that will be delivered over the course of this season, while all the while in the background making sure that were on the front foot for development for the FW44, for the 2021 chassis.

Its not easy. There are teams higher up the grid that have new budget capacity to be able to put a lot more resource into that. But we know the budget and the resource capacity that we have. And weve just got to make sure that we can do the best job that we can with that running two programs in parallel.

Its not ideal. I wish that wed thought about this in advance at Strategy Group and put the cost cap in place for this year so that it will be greater convergence in 21 rather than having to wait for it for a few years. But thats the way it is.

At Williams, weve always just got on with it, rolled up our sleeves and we will do the best job that we can. But its not going to be easy running the two. There are a whole new set of technical regulations that weve got to get our head round and maximise because 2021 has got to be a year that we capitalise on with all the changes that are coming. And its got to be a year that we get it right at Williams.

Re: The All New FW43
GPL 06 March, 2020 15:03
If they can get the upgrades working on the 43 as planned, that should give us some confidence moving forward into 2021.

Re: The All New FW43
Francesc 06 March, 2020 17:22
Interesting article on Williams:
[www.formula1.com]

The long run pace can't be right though.

Re: The All New FW43
Francesc 06 March, 2020 19:34
[translate.google.es]

Quote:
The big question mark here is Perez's Racing Point. The Mexican was on his last run on the last day on the advice of Mercedes as well as Russell in Williams with heavily reduced performance.

Re: The All New FW43
Mr Brooksy 06 March, 2020 21:55
Quote:
Francesc
Interesting article on Williams:
[www.formula1.com]

The long run pace can't be right though.

I was thinking exactly the same thing when I read that article. What data are they looking at!

Re: The All New FW43
GPL 07 March, 2020 10:39
I would say we are closer to 2 seconds off race pace to start the season.

Re: The All New FW43
tomazy 07 March, 2020 15:58
https://i.imgur.com/Wm5fvJJ.jpg

Re: The All New FW43
GPL 08 March, 2020 09:52
Remember when i posted that i thought that the 43 was not good on the stints and they had not
got on top of being easy on tire wear through a long stint.

Well someone elsr has posted this.


I looked at a laptime vs. tyre age scatter plot with all runs from all teams from all test days on all tyres, and I'm afraid Williams will be still dead last and no real threat to even Haas or Alfa. They won't be as far off as they were last year, but they won't compete for 9th either.

Re: The All New FW43
tomazy 08 March, 2020 10:41
All days, all stints is irelevant, what is relevant is stints at the end of the tests (the cars at the most race ready) on comparible tires. Here are 2 Raikonnens stints on day 6 and 2 Russells stints on day 6 on har tires. I dont know the fuel loads or what they were testing, but just looking at the tire degredation I wuld say Williams looks much better??

Raikonen:

1:23.097
1:23.377
1:23.624
1:23.779
1:23.536
1:23.976
1:24.086
1:24.74
1:24.633
1:24.915
1:25.39
1:25.247
1:26.617
1:26.126
1:25.52
1:25.931
1:26.152

1:23.516
1:23.387
1:23.533
1:23.535
1:23.934
1:23.671
1:24.22
1:23.8
1:23.732
1:23.947
1:25.237
1:24.196
1:23.759
1:24.194
1:24.068
1:24.435
1:25.071
1:24.743
1:25.679
1:25.602
1:26.064

Russell:

1:24.298
1:23.992
1:24.304
1:23.746
1:24.067
1:24.469
1:25.563
1:23.585
1:23.52
1:24.019
1:23.824
1:23.735
1:23.419
1:23.513
1:23.823
1:24.105
1:24.565

1:22.382
1:22.438
1:22.391
1:22.409
1:22.755
1:22.363
1:22.558
1:22.734
1:22.537
1:22.299
1:22.477
1:22.924
1:22.624
1:22.479
1:22.646
1:22.977
1:22.746
1:22.699
1:23.057
1:22.797

Re: The All New FW43
GPL 08 March, 2020 10:54
yes that second stint of Georges looks better but maybe running less fuel.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/03/2020 10:56 by GPL.

Re: The All New FW43
tomazy 08 March, 2020 11:04
Don't look at the times, look at the tire degredation. Raikonen stasts first stint on low 23, and finishes in 26 with quite linear progression, second stint he starts mid 23 and ends mid 25.
Russell on the other hand, his lap times dont drop at all. But this is not to say that Alfa did not have any consistant stints. This is testing, and nobady knows what others were dooing. There is so much data from lap times from testing, that everybody could find something and say, see here, I was right. We will see soon where everyone stands, Williams will probably still be slowest tho (Sm136) But lets hope that we will be plesently surprised.

Re: The All New FW43
Anderis 08 March, 2020 12:15
It's useless to compare tyre degradation levels if we don't know what tyres were these stints made on.

Re: The All New FW43
tomazy 08 March, 2020 12:27
Quote:
Anderis
It's useless to compare tyre degradation levels if we don't know what tyres were these stints made on.

All the stints in my previous post were made on the same C2 hard tire.

Re: The All New FW43
Mehryar 08 March, 2020 13:20
Thanks Tomazy for the data...if you any more comparable stints on same tyres between Haas and AT, share please.

Interestingly on some sites, the closest rival for Williams is Alfa and not Haas.



http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1095/mehryarsigyo7.gif

Re: The All New FW43
Anderis 08 March, 2020 15:35
Quote:
tomazy
Quote:
Anderis
It's useless to compare tyre degradation levels if we don't know what tyres were these stints made on.

All the stints in my previous post were made on the same C2 hard tire.
Sorry, you had indeed written about the comparable tyres but I missed that.

Re: The All New FW43
tomazy 08 March, 2020 16:00
Quote:
Mehryar
Thanks Tomazy for the data...if you any more comparable stints on same tyres between Haas and AT, share please.
Interestingly on some sites, the closest rival for Williams is Alfa and not Haas.

No problem, here they are, all on day 6 of testing and C2 tires but again, diffirent fuel loads, but this does not effect tire degredation:

kvyat:

83.963
83.911
83.667
84.141
84.065
83.714
84.212
84.355
84.445
84.833
84.771
84.73
84.717
84.796
84.591
84.784
84.654
86.294
85.142
84.992

82.728
82.994
82.873
82.955
82.893
82.863
83.196
83.652
84.352
83.515
83.56
83.643
83.668
83.341
83.268
83.68
83.708
83.498
83.318
84.114

and Grosjean

82.236
81.946
82.173
81.934
81.977
82.017
82.065
82.038
82.27
82.459
82.639
82.832
82.945
83.213
83.002
82.9

All the laps from testing can be found HERE. I think we are missing at least 0,5s a lap of performance to be compatitive on race pace, but we don't know the engine mode and stuff. There is no point to speculate as everything will be revealed in less than a week.

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