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Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Discussion started by Williams F1 , 12 September, 2020 08:44
Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Williams F1 12 September, 2020 08:44
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Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Mr Brooksy 16 September, 2020 07:01
Kinda surprised this hasn't surfaced here yet...
[www.racefans.net]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16/09/2020 07:02 by Mr Brooksy.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Myvatn 16 September, 2020 10:08
Yes, they were there. And I think this is a very positive sign.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Matt Brown 16 September, 2020 11:27
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The new owners are conducting an extensive review of the 43-year-old teamís operation before deciding their next steps.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Stu69 16 September, 2020 11:28
Great to see they are not a faceless entity. How big an impact they can have on next years car is the interesting question. Some effect but not loads I guess.

Even if they buy Merc parts they still have to integrate them into a working concept. It isnít just a simple bolt it on and it works Job!

Ridiculous comments in the race fans link. Our best result of the season finishing 11th!! Donít make me laugh! Only 12 finished! Itís not a finish to rejoice about.

BUT I honestly believe the new owners will and can do a better job than the old guard! Fresh ideas and hopefully a full budget. Come on team Willy!!

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Matt Brown 16 September, 2020 11:38
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Ridiculous comments in the race fans link. Our best result of the season finishing 11th!! Donít make me laugh! Only 12 finished! Itís not a finish to rejoice about.

Yeah I noticed that too ,Williams finished 11th but half the god damn field got wiped out in that race.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Stu69 16 September, 2020 11:59
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Matt Brown
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Ridiculous comments in the race fans link. Our best result of the season finishing 11th!! Donít make me laugh! Only 12 finished! Itís not a finish to rejoice about.

Yeah I noticed that too ,Williams finished 11th but half the god damn field got wiped out in that race.

Spin worthy of Trump or Boris!! :-)

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
GPL 16 September, 2020 13:09
hahahahahaha.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
GPL 16 September, 2020 13:16
Anyway enough pie in the sky drivel from Robson.

Who is designing next years car because we are running out of time.

Don,t tell me we have to wait till 2022 to see a car capable of points.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Stu69 16 September, 2020 13:47
We have to wait until 2022 to see a car that can score points!! Ha ha ha!!

Actually I donít believe that. Racing Point prove it can be done reasonably quickly. Last years racing point was decent and this years better. With a decent plan, some cash, good people we should have a much better car next year and a better one the year after!

However, if the new owners canít deliver on their investment then it will be a disaster..., again! I think they can deliver! If Stroll can, they can! It can be done.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
GroveF1 17 September, 2020 07:16
Well letís face it Racing Point is a Mercedes in disguise so that wonít be difficult. My thinking is Theyíll still have Dave Worner and Dave Carter kept in the design department with Doug McKiernan and Adam Carter in the technical side - all new arrivals for 2020 remember.

The need an overseeing figure to direct them.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Stu69 17 September, 2020 08:00
ďWonít be difficultĒ

Well not as difficult as designing from scratch but not as simple as bolting on the Merc bits and away you go. It still takes engineering skill and design know how to get all those parts working together.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
an.jo 17 September, 2020 20:36
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Stu69
Even if they buy Merc parts they still have to integrate them into a working concept. It isnít just a simple bolt it on and it works Job!

And yet RP claims to have reverse-engineered last year's Mercedes to design this years RP that miraculously came out at the 1st test working as well as last year's Mercedes. If you believe that and not that Mercedes -- in particular, £37 million investor last spring in Aston Martin after talks with Lawrence Stroll, Toto Wolff -- decided that RP (going forward Aston Martin, which was purchased by a consortium led by Stroll and has an ongoing partnership with Daimler AG) would be the Mercedes B team and use the previous years Mercedes chassis and they would get around the prohibition against that with the "reverse-engineering" BS ... well, some proverbial Florida swamp land needs a new owner. The only thing RP engineered -- no doubt, also with Mercedes help -- is plausible deniability.

The only plausible explanation for RP's "reverse-engineering" miracle is they had access to something similar to what Ferrari's Nigel Stepney gave Mclaren's Mike Coughlan in 2007:

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After analyzing Stepney's laptop, investigators discovered that, at some point, he had printed out the soul of the 2007 Ferrari F1 car: 780 pages that, as court documents would later reveal, constituted "technical documents for designing, engineering, building, checking, testing, developing, and running a Formula One racing car." These included schematic drawings, technical reports, photographs, budget sheets, planning materials, and more. (Link)

The other teams knew immediately what was up, the problem was proving it. Renault used the brake ducts issue as a means of indirectly attacking what was going on and hoping, I'm sure, through the appeals process to directly implicate Wolff and Mercedes before the FIA headed that off, promising to change the regulations to prevent future "reverse-engineering". So Williams can't repeat RP's "reverse-engineering" miracle for the last year of the current regulations in 2021.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Matt Brown 18 September, 2020 12:09
How many more years will Williams run Mercedes engines how long before Williams change engine manufacturers? Will it be 4 or 5 years before they change engine manufacturers?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 18/09/2020 12:13 by Matt Brown.

Re: Early days for Williams Racing new owners
Stu69 18 September, 2020 14:54
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Matt Brown
How many more years will Williams run Mercedes engines how long before Williams change engine manufacturers? Will it be 4 or 5 years before they change engine manufacturers?

How many more years will Merc be involved??


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