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TEAM PRINCIPALS: Pat Symonds (Renault),
Sam Michael (Williams), Willy Rampf (BMW Sauber), Adrian Newey (Red Bull),
Q: A question to all of you, the 2009 car. Can you tell us how important you
feel that car is going to be? How advanced you are already and what are the
significant points about it?
Pat SYMONDS: I am not quite sure what you mean by important. Every car is
important every year. It is very interesting as it’s the first big change we
have had for a long while. I am sure everyone knows it is a big change to
the aerodynamics and it’s a replacement of grooved tyres with slick tyres
which in turn means using different weight distributions and all sorts of
things. It is a very interesting challenge. It’s, I guess, quite a difficult
one. We do need to start on it early and we have started on it early. I am
sure we are all the same. Obviously we have had models in the wind tunnel
even though we are still discussing the finer details of the aerodynamic
rules. It is a good project. I hope and believe that it will improve
overtaking which is one of the main reasons for kicking it all off, so let’s
see what we get.
Sam MICHAEL: I think the rules are quite different, especially
aerodynamically for a start and getting rid of all of the majority of the
appendages on the car – barge-boards, flip-ups, chimney. Physically from the
outside the cars are going to look quite different with a very wide front
wing and narrow rear wing. The target which came from the TWG which was to
improve overtaking and it remains to be seen how much impact we will have on
that. It will definitely have some impact and that will be good. That
combined with big tyres and a big increase in tyre grip. As Pat said
everyone has started their wind tunnel programmes and also CFD programmes.
It is quite a difficult balance this year to balance how much you develop
the current car, the 2008 car, and how much you develop the 09. Normally
even if you have reasonable rule changes from one year to another they are
not as fundamental as this one, so you can continue developing the car right
to the last race and the bits you develop on that car can be carried over to
next year’s car but it almost doesn’t apply now. If you are still developing
you car at the last race it will get thrown in the bin at the end of this
season. It is probably harder for the three teams fighting for the
championship, but it is equally hard for the teams that are fighting I would
say to be the best of the rest at the moment, that fourth spot. There are
three or four teams that are capable of running in that position and it is
going to increase the pressure on them as well. We are all going to be doing
that balancing act throughout the season.
Adrian NEWEY: It’s a new challenge for the engineers which is great. I must
admit my reservations. The biggest problem is a question of resource. As Sam
said we are all in a position where we are all for our various different
reasons desperately trying to improve this year’s car but at the same time
we are conscious that you have got to start researching a very different car
for next year. If you had limitless resources you would divide everything in
two, you would go to four wind tunnels as I believe Honda are using at the
moment and off you go and start research. If you don’t have those resources
then it is a much more difficult juggling act. The last really big
regulation change we had was 2004-05 when the front wing was lifted
considerably. The great thing as far as I was concerned about that rule was
it didn’t really come out until the beginning of July by which time we had
all done the bulk of our development for that year. We could all go off
starting from the same place and do our best in the time available. This one
is very different. We have known about it since November-December. As Pat
says rules are still subtly changing but we have known the essence of it for
a long time, so it really is a question of how we divide resources.
Willy RAMPF: For us it is a very demanding rule change and quite different
to the last years. In the last year we had always a fluent transition from
the one car to the next one as the regulations changes were fairly small.
This is completely different now because we have to run the development
project parallel which is not so easy because we have the one wind tunnel.
It means we have to divide the capacity of one wind tunnel and currently we
are doing a lot of work on CFD to sort out the basic requirements and then
go into the wind tunnel.
Aldo COSTA: Again, it is very interesting but it will be very difficult to
measure change in aerodynamic. We have also got the KERS and the tyres. This
will require a rethink of all of the mass redistribution of the car. It will
mean a lot of studies – not only aero study, but also a lot of research in
the KERS area, a lot of research in the basic car layout, so it is very
demanding, so strategic choices during this year will be to be focussed more
on this year’s car or vice-versa. It will be very difficult to do.
Q: Another question to you all. Can you give us some idea of the
modifications that you have made since the last grand prix? Pat, I think
yours is the most obvious.
PS: Aerodynamic and suspension. A lot of aerodynamic changes and when you
say most obvious, yes, it probably is. You will see a very different engine
cover, some subtleties around the barge-board and the front brake areas.
Changes to suspension, quite a lot of things. I think this becomes a general
trend these days. Most teams tend to cover the first three races with only
minor changes, the sort of things we can get done and fit to the cars
without extensive testing because we cannot really do that testing while we
are out of Europe. Coming back to Europe there is a big back-log of things
we are trying to get on the car. We had quite a good test here the other
week although one day was spoiled by the weather, the rest of it we managed
to get a lot of stuff done, so that’s reflected on the cars here.
Q: Do you feel that you have made a step forward and that you have got
closer to the opposition?
PS: It’s difficult to say. The test was, of course, perhaps a little bit
more difficult than usual and it is always difficult to see where you are in
a test. It was a bit more difficult than usual because people were running
different levels of downforce and of course the 2009 tyres at times, so it
wasn’t always easy to see how people were approaching things. Again, if you
look at today, the mere fact we have been testing here means that the Friday
programme is a little bit different to usual. I think we have made a little
bit of a gain relative to most of our competitors – not all of them but most
of them – but the proof of the pudding will be know by Sunday night I guess.
Q: Sam, your modifications?
SM: A lot of ours are aerodynamic for this race. There is a new front and
rear wing, diffuser, barge-board area. Because everyone is doing the same
thing you need to find two-or-three tenths just to stay where you are. If
you can find anything above that then you will close the gap to the guys in
front. As Pat said it is fairly normal to get quite a big upgrade when you
come back to Europe, so you have to try extra special to actually upset the
order and then that can play into things like mechanical changes as well.
Q: Now you have got Kazuki Nakajima who is almost entirely new to the team
and Nico is still young although he has got a couple of seasons under his
belt. Do you feel they are still lacking in a little bit of experience?
SM: They are both young, you can’t deny that. Nico has been driving F1 cars
for four years now because he was a test driver for a year before he started
racing. He has come on a lot but he is clearly not the same age as guys who
have been driving three or four times as long as him. But he is doing a good
job. Kazuki is obviously a rookie. We do have a very young driver line-up
but that can bring benefits as well in terms of enthusiasm and ability to
look outside of the box. But it means the race engineers and the people at
the top need to inject the experience to tell them what to do and what not
to do.
Q: So it is a balance between their inexperience and your experience.
SM: Yes, that’s right. Throughout F1 you always get different driver
line-ups. Sometimes they are positive and sometimes you just need to help
them out more but so far they have done a good enough job with the car.
Q: Adrian, your modifications here?
AN: Obviously educating our rookies. Apart from that pretty much the same as
Sam apart from that one. A new front wing and a few other aerodynamic bits
and pieces. Same again really. The European season is the start of the first
big upgrade. Traditionally now a lot of the teams are doing the same. They
will have a big upgrade just past the first race and then a further one for
the first European. We didn’t get all the parts we wanted tested in the test
because of the rain on the last day and some of our parts didn’t arrive
until that last day, so as Pat hinted we may have done a little bit of
evaluation this morning which we wouldn’t normally do at a race weekend. But
we have done loads of miles around here, so felt confident in doing so.
Q: Renault have been saying they feel they are a little bit down on power. I
think that is fair enough to say, Pat?
PS: I am not sure who has said that but maybe it is fair enough to say, yes.
Q: So are you hurting in that area as well do you feel?
AN: We have obviously got the same engine as Pat has in the back. Other than
that I wouldn’t like to say. We are certainly very happy with the service
Renault have provided us. We are a customer but we do not feel like a
customer. They give us extremely good support in all areas and we are very
happy with that.
Q: So the fact you haven’t said no means it is a yes really?
AN: No, I didn’t say that. It is difficult to judge really. It is very
difficult to judge the relative power of engines installed in the car
because you have got so many different factors. It is difficult to tell
sometimes.
Q: Willy, what modifications have you made?
WR: We have quite a number of small modifications on the aerodynamic side,
mainly on the bodywork. The most obvious parts are engine cover – basically
a different fin – and rear wing mounted on a so-called centre strut which is
new for us, which we have introduced here; basically tested last week but
introduced here for the first time.
Q: I remember last year you stepped up the pace of development to have
something new at every race. Have you done the same again this year?
WR: Yes. In principal we keep the same: bringing new components for each
race and up to now we have been able to do so and we still want to do it. We
don’t think that waiting for a huge update to be ready and developed is the
right thing for us. That’s our opinion. We believe more in optimising the
car as it is because the car still has potential for further development.
Q: Aldo, modifications here?
AC: It’s obvious that we have changed the nose, the nose concept is
different, and then there are other small details from the aerodynamic point
of view on the bodywork, on the diffuser, that we have changed for this
race. So mainly the changes are aerodynamic parts.
Q: Why have you changed the nose if, as someone says, it’s not a major
change?
AC: It’s one of the aerodynamic changes that we had on the way during the
winter. It probably took a little bit more time because it’s more difficult
from the crash (test) point of view, so we decided to come here with the
different nose. It’s a programme that we had to develop as with all the
other aerodynamic developments that we are doing.
Q: We saw Felipe much quicker in the first two sectors today and yet he
always seemed to lose time in the last sector. Is that something about this
circuit or is it about him?
AC: He tested the car last week for two days, so he had very very good
reference. This morning, particularly, he was not very happy with the grip
of the hard tyre in the slow speed corners of the last sector, so that’s why
he struggled but then, little by little, during the session, it went better
and better and at the end he was OK.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Dan Knutson – National Speed Sport News) Willy, can you tell us how
Robert Kubica has developed as a driver from his first race through to the
last two when he’s been on the podium?
WR: Obviously he has gained a lot of experience and I think especially this
winter, when we brought the new car onto the track, it was very important
that we relied on and got very exact feedback from the drivers to develop
the car, because if it comes to balance issues, it’s not always so easy to
see it in the wind tunnel or on the data. So here we were relying on the
drivers, both drivers. I think Robert did a very good job. His comments are
quite precise and quite repeatable, and this is very important for us. For
sure he learned a lot, he made a step up compared to last year but he also
has much more experience than last year.
Q: (Mike Doodson) I’m interested to know if the changes made over the last
three or four years have saved money and if they will save money in the
future?
AN: It depends whether you are a customer such as Williams and ourselves or
whether you are a manufacturer in the first place. Certainly in our case
with Renault, it hasn’t really had very much effect because what Renault
charge us for is the manufacture, supply and operation of the engines, not
the development. That they absorb within their works’ effort. For us as
privateers, it hasn’t really had very much effect. I’m sure for the
manufacturers themselves it has had an effect, depending on how they’ve
taken it. Some manufacturers have really cut right back and taken the intent
of the engine freeze – which was to stop spending as much money on the
development of the engine – to heart. Other manufacturers have continued
spending on smaller gains, accepting that whilst the gains will be smaller
per euro spent, there were still gains available. I don’t know if that
answers your question. From now on, when there is a more solid freeze, then
the cost to the manufacturers will probably go down as well. Again, there’s
no sign from the supplied teams, which you could argue are perhaps those who
would most like the financial assistance, that it has actually made much
difference.
WR: I don’t know about a figure about overall engine costs but overall, the
number of engines has gone down because with frozen engines, the development
programme is much much lower than it was before and for each modification we
do on an engine, you have to do quite a few dyno runs. It means that it’s
not only a development programme but also for reliability reasons. To
confirm it you have to run a lot of engines and this is not necessary any
more. So for sure there is a significant step down in engine costs.
PS: I think that your question was about changing the engine, rather than
the engine freeze. Obviously changing the engine, going from the V10 to the
V8, did require a lot of money, change always does. The freeze is a
different thing, and certainly at Renault we embraced the freeze and we took
it in the spirit in which it was intended and it did save us a lot of money.
As Willy said, for every development that you do, you need to run engines on
the dyno. They’re not cheap, these engines, and I think that’s one of the
problems with the frozen engine. We’ve actually frozen an engine that is an
expensive engine. It’s an engine that we designed to run at over 20,000rpm
and I think that if we had known at the time that the freeze was coming and
it was designed, we would probably have worked harder at reducing the unit
costs of the engine. They are expensive engines, as I say. It depends
whether they are test or race engines but they approach a quarter of a
million euros an engine. But our engine-related budget has gone down
considerably since the engine freeze, so it has been good for us. I don’t
think I’ll talk numbers. Or percentages.
AC: Very similar situation for us also. For us, the rules have meant big
cost reduction in engine activity in terms of development costs, in terms of
costs of overall units that you produce in a year, and also it reduced the
number of people involved in the engine department, really, so it was a
bigger cost-saving. As Pat said, we could probably have done more in terms
of reducing the unit price of the engine and I have to add another point. We
could have done more to increase the mileage of the engines before freezing,
so instead of two races, we could probably have done something more, even
better. But OK, we have to accept the situation as it was done.
SM: Just to finish on that point Aldo just raised, because that’s also a
significant point that changed two or three years ago, and that’s going from
the quantity of engines that we used to use. We used to go through twelve
engines every two race weekends. We now go through two, so that’s come down
by a factor of six, because we used to change engines… engines used to do
350 kilometres, so you would change them every night on both cars.
Notwithstanding what Adrian said, because he’s right about the cost to
private teams, but if you actually said right, you need to multiply the
number of engines you need now by six, then that would be a pretty big
number.
Q: (Michael Schmidt – Auto Moto und Sport) Question to Aldo Costa: It seems
that Ferrari is playing down the importance of the new nose a little bit. To
say it’s just another aero development sounds a bit odd. I think it’s a big
effort to do that, bigger than just putting a new flap on, so it must be
worth it.
AC: Yeah, of course you have to consider the performance gain versus the
money you spend doing this development because we don’t have an infinite
budget. So performance development versus cost was something worth doing,
for sure. As you say, it was probably a bit bigger in terms of advantage
than a small flap or a front wing endplate. But in terms of performance
advantage it’s in the range of other car developments that we do during the
year.
Q: (Daniel Garcia – The Press Association) A question to Pat: Can the
Spanish fans be optimistic after today’s results or do they have to wait
until tomorrow?
PS: I don’t think the results of Friday are ever a good indication of how
everything is going to go throughout the weekend. As I said earlier, I am
hopeful and reasonably confident that we’ve moved forward a little bit. To
say that we’ve moved up to the front row of the grid would be incorrect, we
most definitely haven’t, so I think you just need to decide what level of
optimism you’re aiming at.
Q: (MC) Perhaps we thought that the return of Fernando would also be a
return to the days when Fernando was in the team, but it doesn’t seem to
have happened. We all know there was a problem last year with using the new
tyres. Have you found the problem that is holding you up this year?
PS: Yes, I think it’s well known that really our major problem last year was
that we lacked correlation between the wind tunnel and the car, and it was
something that as we looked into it, we traced back in fact to the end of
2006, it wasn’t just the 2007 problem. Where we are now, I think, is
suffering from the wake of that problem. It took a long while to identify it
precisely and to understand how it had occurred and then to fix it and all
that was time that we would rather have been developing the car and moving
it forward. So I would say that the car had a problem this year in the sense
that it had a problem last year. What it suffers from is a little bit of a
lack of development. When you’re running your wind tunnels 24 hours a day,
seven days a week, as pretty well everyone is now, and in our case it’s a
single wind tunnel, it’s hard to find extra time. We stopped development of
last year’s car early, we released this year’s car a little bit later than
we have done in previous years, and all of that was to try and make up time.
It wasn’t enough, and I think that where we lack now is simple aerodynamic
efficiency, the sort of week on week improvements that you make. We just
need a few more weeks to make them and it’s very hard because it means that
all the time you have to be improving at a greater rate than your rivals and
these are pretty tough rivals sitting round me.
Q: (Dan Knutson – National Speed Sport News) Adrian, given that winglets are
banned next year, would the temptation be to make the monocoque into
winglets or would the rules prevent that?
AN: I think the answer is that the rules prevent it. The rules have an even
more extensive set of exclusion areas where you can’t put bodywork than we
have currently, and on top of that there’s a regulation where there’s a
minimum cross-sectional curvature from near the front of the side pod, all
the way to the rear axle which is designed to try and prevent flick-ups and
winglets and so forth. In that sense, they are pretty thorough, they are
quite complicated, they’ll certainly create a much simpler looking shape, I
think, in all cases. From a purely technical point of view, it’s quite fun
at the moment to have a new set of rules to get your teeth into and think
about, but ultimately they will be a more restrictive set of regulations. It
depends on your viewpoint as to whether you think that’s a good thing or
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