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TEAM REPRESENTATIVES – Vijay
MALLYA (Force India), Jean-Francois CAUBET (Renault Sport F1), Frank
WILLIAMS (Williams), Monisha KALTENBORN (Sauber), Ross BRAWN (Mercedes)
Vijay, first of all welcome, I think this is your first grand prix of the
year and you love Monaco. But how do you keep in touch when you’re a long
way away?
Vijay MALLYA: Well you know, particularly at the start of the season there
are too many conflicting obligations that I have. Parliament, for one, is in
session in March and April and that makes it very difficult for me to leave
India. I otherwise would have enjoyed going to flyaway races. But the
budget, the union budget, was presented only in the middle of March this
year as opposed to the end of February so I was obliged to stay back and
attend parliament. Then, of course, in early April starts the IPL (India
Premier League) cricket and you know we Indians are pretty passionate about
the game of cricket. In fact, I remember I was telling Monisha, that three
years ago my team reached the finals of the IPL and I actually had to
regretfully abandon the Monaco Grand Prix and fly back on the Saturday night
to make the Sunday final. But now it’s all over, done and dusted and now I
can enjoy Formula One particularly in the summer in Europe and in North
America.
How do you think Sahara Force India is doing at the moment? How do you see
the performance so far this year?
VM: We’ve got 18 points from five races – it’s the best start we’ve ever
had. But if you look at our immediate competition, they’re way ahead of us.
Compliments to them, they’ve done exceedingly well. I think Sauber has had a
second, the podium, and Williams have won the race, so congratulations to
both of them. But if I study or try to analyse the various races and the
performance of various cares there’s a huge sense of unpredictability that
has crept in this year. Just as an example: in Barcelona, Nico came tenth,
scored one point but kept Webber behind him for more than 30 laps. Up until
last year I would never have dreamt of keeping a Red Bull behind me. In
Barcelona once again, Lewis actually got pole position before he was given
the penalty but Jenson didn't even make Q3. So there’s something going on
there and the only thing we can put a finger on is the tyres and the
performance of the tyres and we’re obviously doing all we can to try and
understand tyre management better. But I think we can look forward to our
moment in the sun as well.
If it’s that unpredictable then everyone has got a chance.
VM: Absolutely. The results speak for themselves. There is a definite sense
of unpredictability. The usual front-runners aren’t front-runners anymore.
The midfield teams have in fact outperformed the traditional front-runners.
So there is something going on there which I think everybody is trying to
understand better.
Jean-Francois, can we first of all clear up the Caterham problem this
morning? I believe it was quite an old engine.
Jean-Francois CAUBET: Yes, we blew up an engine this morning, with Heikki.
There was a problem of reliability but it was quite an old engine. It was
engine of more than 2,200km. It was an engine raced in the two first grands
prix on the Friday. It was at the limit but sometime before the limit it is
difficult to measure, so we know that we have a good engine today but some
problem of reliability.
I’m intrigued to learn that you do more work here than for any other grand
prix, can you just explain where that’s centred?
JFC: Yes, I think even if Monaco is a long grand it is a tough grand prix on
the engine side you we must have the maximum job between 15-17,000rpm
instead of 17-18,000, so the map is completely different and you need great
feedback from the driver to set up the car.
Is there more preparation involved than that?
JFC: Not. I think each grand prix is specific but Monaco is one that is no
especially specific against the other.
And now there is the possibility of more teams winning for you as we saw
with Williams two weeks ago.
JFC: Yes, congratulations to Frank (Williams) because it was quite emotional
in Renault to have this win in Barcelona. I think we found the same spirit
with Frank and we’re quite happy as we pushed a lot to have a good
relationship and a good spirit with all the teams and with Frank we’ve found
the same spirit as we had 20 years ago. It was quite funny because Frank
visited us last week and he told us in French… I will try to translate: Une
hirondelle ne fait pas printemps, I think it’s one swallow doesn’t make a
summer in English or something like this. But I don’t think it’s right. I
think the car is good and I think they’ll probably have some more wins with
Frank.
Well, let’s ask Frank. How much of a surprise was the performance in
Barcelona, or does nothing surprise you any longer?
Frank WILLIAMS: That’s partly right, but I was surprised. I’ve been racing
long enough to know that you should approach any race with a considerable
amount of pessimism and you get better after that. All grand prix teams are
immensely professional and very few of them make any mistakes worth talking
about during a season so it’s hard to prise winners away from winning all
the time. But whatever we did right, and I don’t really know what that was,
worked very fine and I’m just delighted to walk away with all those points
and another number one on the scoreboard.
What has it meant to you personally having that win, after so many years?
FW: Yeah, well I thought it was eight years actually but if it was seven
that that sounds a little bit better but it's an embarrassing amount of time
for a man with a big ego.
Pastor told us there’s been quite a bit of reorganisation within the team.
How important has that been and how difficult was that reorganisation?
FW: It wasn’t a major reorganisaiton, a few new people arrived, there was a
bit of shuffling around. One or two people can make quite a difference and
given that it’s a complicated matter, as all these people here will tell
you, to put the right group of people together and get them to fire on all
cylinders. It comes together once in a while with the car and the driver and
everything working very well. We took our chance and got it.
We got the impression that methods within the factory had changed, even the
means of building the car and that sort of thing. Is that the case?
FW: Nothing significant has changed. It’s the same approach, the same
reliability. If we've gone a bit quicker then it’s because the car is
quicker and that would have come, more than anything else, from the wind
tunnel and from the drivers being particularly tuned in to a particular
circuit.
Monisha, first of all I wanted to ask you about Chelsea Football Club
because I think there’s quite a few people back here who don’t quite
understand that tie-up, how it works and how it happened?
Monisha KALTENBORN: Well, Chelsea approached us last year with this idea.
It’s very simple really, there’s not much mystery to it. Here two teams have
got together that belong to the two sports that are probably the most
watched sports around the world. So like this we’ve created a joint
platform, an enormous community to which we can reach out and we’ll be doing
this by doing marketing events together, looking at merchandising areas, so
there’s a lot of commercial activity that will start and it gives us a very
potential to go to potential sponsors. So it’s the commercial area that’s
involved here and if you give us a bit more time you’ll what comes out.
Also, of course, some of the ownership of the team has been transferred to
you, which is, I suspect, a fantastic opportunity for you.
MK: That’s a great opportunity for me – and a big honour. It shows to me the
amount of trust Peter has put into me, that together with his son we can
operate the company in the future according to the values that he as the
founder of our company has actually set out. And at the same time it’s a
very big responsibility as we’re talking about a company here that has been
in motorsport for the last 40 years, so you have a big responsibility
towards the people and towards Peter.
And, in terms of the future of the team, the team has traditionally started
very, very well but seems to have dropped off a bit mid-season. Have you got
the budget to keep the development going for the rest of the season?
MK: We often get the question on our budget and that maybe we cannot develop
the way that we want to. Now with the Barcelona package I think we showed
everyone that we can develop quickly, efficiently and also bring a good and
a big package to the track. So we will continue to do that. And it’s valid
for many other teams on the grid who are in a similar position, the more
funding we have, the more we can develop, and you’ll see that on track.
Ross, we’ve seen the ups and downs of the Mercedes team this year, we’ve
heard how unpredictable Formula One is. Is that what it’s all about? You won
obviously in China but since then the performance doesn’t seem to have been
there.
Ross BRAWN: I think teams… if we take a normal season, there’s always some
variability between the teams and if you overlay on that the difficulty in
getting a good understanding of how to make these tyres work most
effectively, then the two together can sometimes bring quite big
discrepancies. Take some of our competitors in Barcelona, they were a second
quicker than us, and we were a second quicker than them in the previous
race. There’s big differences sometimes when these tyres are working or not
working properly. I think it’s a combination of the two, which makes it
quite difficult to always understand where you are in the car and what you
have to focus on to improve it. But we’ve done some useful progress with the
car I believe, and when we get to those circuits where it would naturally
suit the car and we’re in the working range of the tyres, then you’ll see
the performance come back again. But it’s true the last couple of races have
not been so great after we had such a wonderful weekend in China.
Is there more strategy decided on the pit wall now than before? Is it
becoming harder and harder to think on your feet as the goalposts move?
RB: It’s true to say you don’t always know what you’re going to get in the
race, even if you’ve done the work on a Friday and Saturday, you don’t
always know what you’re going to get in the race and you have to be prepared
to react from what you see in the race. Sometimes the tyres don’t last as
long as you anticipated; sometimes they’re more consistent than you
anticipated. So you need to have the capacity to evolve your strategy while
you’re on the pit wall. I think the signs you get are relatively clear in
terms of lap times and degradation and so on and so forth. So, it has made
strategy, I think, more interesting in many ways, more relevant so, yeah, it
does make it more challenging on the pit wall but that’s something we enjoy.
Yesterday we had a question from a journalist which quoted you in a German
paper – which meant there were about three translations involved – saying
that you had said that the team had let down Michael Schumacher this year,
so far. Did you say that? Or could you perhaps clarify what was said?
RB: When I talk about the team, I talk about the drivers as well, the
drivers aren’t outside the team, so when I say “the team hasn’t done a good
enough job with Michael”, I mean collectively. We – and that includes
Michael – have not done a good enough job collectively in the first five
races because Michael’s got two points and that’s not good enough. So, my
view is that we always look at these things collectively; it’s not ‘the
driver’s made a mistake’, or ‘the team’s made a mistake’ it’s ‘together we
haven’t done a good enough job.’ And that’s the situation with Michael. It’s
been a bit better with Nico. Certainly the race win was great and I think in
the last three races actually Nico’s scored the second or third highest
points of any driver. So for Nico we’re not doing too badly. But I think
also the issue of Michael scoring only two points is not just down to
Michael. It’s down to some of the technical problems we’ve had with the car.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
(Sam Collins – Racecar Engineer) Question for Jean-Francois, can you update
us on the progress of your new engine, and also with the ACO changing the Le
Mans prototype regulations to allow complete Formula One powertrains from
2014, is that a new area you can use for testing, with the testing ban in
Formula One?
JFC: I think today for the new engine, for ’14 we are now on schedule. We
need to respect also the budget from Renault. We will be on time. Is it very
high technology so it is quite tough development. We have big help from
Renault, I think more than 45 people coming from Renault to help us on the
electrics side, the electronics and turbo side. I think we will be ready, in
the same philosophy that we have for the future, around November or December
next year, so we are not asking for testing before.
(Sam Collins – Racecar Engineer) And for Le Mans? The ACO has announced they
are going to accept a full Formula One powertrain, including gearbox,
engine, everything from 2014 onwards for Le Mans prototypes – so is that
another market you could move into and is it something you are looking to
do?
JFC: I don’t think so.
(Ignacio Naya – DPA) A question for Monisha Kaltenborn, one year ago Sergio
Pérez had here a very serious accident. I would like to know which memories
do you have from this moment and how the team faced this situation and how
Sergio Pérez is handling this situation, coming back to Monaco?
MK: Well the memories are, of course, very much there because it is just a
year ago and it was a very bad accident. It’s thanks to the safety rules in
Formula One and, I guess, also luck, that the driver remained in the
situation, so he wasn’t really injured. You don’t forget these kind of
things but at the same time you have to get on and concentrate on the future
and I think Sergio has done a great job there. He took it very well, we can
see how mature he handled the situation, even at the next race when he
himself said he was not really there 100 per cent to take part in the race.
But it’s not an issue anymore, we’ve ticked that off, and he’s actually
taken it quite well.
(Ian Parkes – PA) Vijay, you talked about your passion for cricket earlier.
Do you still retain the same passion as you once did for your Formula One
team? And, in particular, given the financial difficulties we read about
regarding Kingfisher, do you still have the same financial commitment to
Force India? Will Force India continue for this season and beyond?
VM: I don’t quite understand the correlation between sporting interests,
which are personal in nature, and my business interests. I have several
large public companies, most of which, with the exception of the airline,
are doing very well. The airline is a victim of extraordinarily high oil
prices and excessive taxation. Now, what you read and what you gather from
what you read, is something that I don’t care to comment on. I have sporting
interests and I am passionately involved in all these sporting interests, I
think I said it earlier. Sahara Force India is independent, fully funded.
It’s a joint venture between the Sahara Group and myself, there has been a
significant capital infusion at the end of 2011, another significant capital
infusion from the Sahara Group is due in 2012 and going beyond to 2013. So,
Sahara Force India is extremely well taken care of and set. My other
sporting interests, well, I was at every IPL cricket game, as any passionate
Indian would be, and the team performed well. A little disappointing at the
end because we’ve been semi-finalists for four years running, we were fifth
this time and got knocked off the last game before the playoffs, but such
things happen in sport. That’s going fine. So, life carries on and passions
carry on too.
(Alan Baldwin – Reuters) Vijay, on the same subject, if you had to make a
choice between your airline and your Formula One team, which one would you
chose?
VM: How can you even start to make such a comparison? One is a large, public
utility per se. How would you call Formula One? A public utility or a public
spectacle? An airline is not intended to be a spectacle and a Formula One
team is not intended to be a public utility either. So where’s the
comparison?
Q: (Alan Baldwin – Reuters) I was asking purely because of the amount of
money that needs to be invested in both, and if you had the money to invest
in one only.
VM: Well, you know, Sahara Force India is private team. Kingfisher Airlines
is a listed entity. The banks own 23 percent of the equity of the airline.
It’s a public company, limited by liability as all limited companies are, so
it’s a plc. So the two are incomparable.
Q: (Ralf Bach – R & B) Dr Mallya, in spite of this, you explain to us,
everywhere in the world, especially in your home country about your problems
with your airline and there are rumours as well that maybe you have problems
with your team financially, that people are waiting for their salary for
weeks, just rumours. But do you think it’s a good idea in respect of all
this, just to have a luxury party on this luxury boat this evening? How can
you justify it?
VM: Justify what and to whom? As I said, I have twenty different businesses.
I have six large publically listed companies, each one is completely
independent with different shareholders. One does not cross-subsidise the
other because that would violate all principles of corporate governance. If
one business, for whatever reason, is not doing well, it doesn’t mean that
every other business has to shut down. Every business has to be continued
within its own values, within its own corporate objectives and the party
that I host in Monaco each year is a promotion for United Spirits Ltd which
has nothing to do with the airline. So because the airline is a victim of –
as I said – high fuel costs and excessive taxation doesn’t meant that other
public companies and their stakeholders should necessarily be compromised.
So who should I justify what to?
Q: (Dieter Rencken – The Citizen) If I may, I would like to ask a Formula
One question: as far as the engines are concerned there are suggestions that
just possibly the introduction of the new green engine – if I can call it
that – will be postponed, and also have any efforts been made to try and cap
the pricing similar to the V8 engines of the present? What will the costing
situation be?
RB: I think it would be a mistake to delay the engines again. If you recall,
we’ve already delayed them one year and we’ve had to re… in fact we’ve
changed them from a four cylinder to a six cylinder and then we delayed them
a year. Every change actually costs a lot of money for the people investing
in new engines. We’re committed to a new engine programme, it’s progressing,
we’ve been able to justify the budgets to our board and we don’t want to see
a deferment or a delay in that new engine. I think it sends a very bad
message back in terms of Formula One to keep changing its direction on
things that are so fundamental, which need so much investment to make work.
I think the new engine is very exciting. I think today engines are not
really a topic in Formula One; they used to be, and I think it used to add
to the sport, that the engine was quite a large factor in the performance
envelope or the performance cycle of the car. I think the engines are much
more relevant. Our company is getting some real benefits from the technology
of this engine. We are using expertise and resource within the company to
develop and design this new engine. It’s a much more relevant engine. We’re
going to be running around on two thirds of the fuel that we’re running on
now with, we think, comparable power outputs. We’ve got to change the engine
at some stage. We will become irrelevant with the engine if we don’t look to
change. The world’s changing and I think the new engine is a far more
relevant engine for Formula One for the future. If we’re going to get new
manufacturers into Formula One, which I think is a good thing, then why will
they come in to build an antique V8 engine? They won’t. They will only come
in with this new engine, so we want to attract manufacturers back into
Formula One and this new engine is very important (in doing that).
J-FC: I think we are very clear. We have already delayed the engine once,
from four cylinder to go to six cylinders. I think it cost us around ten or
15 million, probably the same for Mercedes and probably the same for
Ferrari. So we have blown nearly 50 million for nothing. If you delay one
year, we think it will be never (happen) because the delay will be ‘15 and
then ‘16. For Renault, it is a strategic choice. I think the V8 was
developed 25 years ago and I share the same advice with Ross. If we need to
have some new car makers, only the new engine will open the door to new car
makers. The last point is a key point: to have a Formula One in ’14 with the
old engine will close to the door to a lot of sponsors and new technologies.
I think we have a clear strategy, I think it would be impossible to change
our minds.
And for the cost: I think today you must add the cost of the engine and
KERS. I think we will probably know in September the cost of the new engine.
I don’t think the cost of the new engine will be a drama.
VM: We are not engine manufacturers, we never will be, so we have to depend
on those who will supply us engines. I guess you’ve heard from both Mercedes
and Renault here. I’m focused, at least, vis-à-vis the FIA on the resource
restriction bit, because I think the cost of Formula One should be
reasonable for all and give a level playing field for all participating
teams. A power train, of course, is a very very important component of that.
MK: As has just been said, we are also one of the non-engine manufacturer
teams. We are first of all committed to cost cutting so from that
perspective, we have to ensure that we don’t go back to a point where
engines were so much more expensive – if you look back ten years ago. I
think that should always be kept in mind. We fully appreciate and understand
that an engine manufacturer wants to showcase his technology in Formula One
but they also have to consider that engines have to be affordable and become
more affordable in due course.
FW: I’ve always been a competitor, like everybody else here, and my own
position is that as long as we get the very best engine – whether it’s a
fair price or not – as long as we can find the money to pay for it, we’ll go
and buy that engine, and our present geography – I mean that bloke behind(J-FC),
who we are with presently, we know that they will supply us - if we can
afford it - with a very fine winning engine next year and that’s what we
intend to do, and if we have to find more money, we’ll find the money.
Q: (Alberto Antonini – Autosprint) There has been some discomfort and some
complaints, I gather, from the general public about the lack of show in the
latter stages of qualifying, in Q3, due to the fact that some of the drivers
and some teams play with strategy and try to save tyres. So among the
suggestions to cure that has been the proposal of allocating an extra set of
tyres – call it qualifiers or whatever – for the exclusive use in Q3, which
they would have to give back anyway. I understand Pirelli has no objection
regarding this, but I would like to know what your view is about this?
FW: I’ll put my foot in it. I think it’s probably a good idea from the point
of view that it maybe gives all teams a better chance. If you’re a really
skilful team with a brilliant engineer to run and control things, and you’ve
only got three sets of tyres, you’ll always get the best. If you haven’t got
such a person, you’re always going to be at a handicap. If there’s a fourth
set, it may help out one of the weaker members. If there’s an extra bob or
two involved in running those tyres, maybe you shouldn’t be in F1.
MK: We’ve had many discussions, I think, amongst the teams last year about
the tyre situation in qualifying. We think the rule we have now is OK. We
also wouldn’t be supporting extra tyres, and I think even if you look at the
statistics that the amount - when teams do their strategies and don’t go out
in Q3 – as most of these teams have anyway been doing a lot more laps
earlier, so I don’t think it would really change much for the viewer. That’s
what the figures say, at least.
RB: I don’t have a strong opinion, to be honest. I actually think there’s
some interest in teams which don’t go out. Of course people are here to see
cars run and even when there’s some teams that don’t go out, you’ve got six
or seven cars still competing hard for pole position. The teams that don’t
go out generally have resigned themselves to the fact that they can’t
compete for those positions right at the front, and I think those teams,
being able to save their tyres, is in some way a compensation for their
performance in the first part of the race. So it does give an extra decision
and extra opportunity for the teams perhaps in eighth to tenth to save a set
of tyres and be stronger in the early part of the race. There are two sides
to every coin and is the show spoilt by the fact that some of the cars at
the back of Q1 don’t run? I’m not sure it is. I think everyone’s focused on
what the guys fighting for pole are doing. But if there was genuine proof
that the fans want ten cars running all the time in Q3 then we’d accept some
extra tyres.
J-FC: I think for a car maker it’s quite important not to change the
regulations all the time. I think that if you make a comparison, it’s like
you change the size of the goals during the season.
Q: (Vanessa Ruiz – ESPN Radio) Just a quick question to Frank: in Barcelona,
right before the fire started, a few seconds before the fire started, you
had just gathered the team around you. They were all kneeling in the garage.
What was it exactly that you intended to tell the team at that moment? And
if you’ve had the chance to talk to them and finish that speech and if that
speech changed after the fire?
FW: I believe like everybody else here, when you have a business or a large
company – and mine’s a small one – communication is fundamental. There was
just a spot of communication going on, just happened to be in a rather
public place but that was unavoidable. It wasn’t about sex. Sorry. Sadly.
Q: (Gary Meenaghan – The National) Michael Schumacher spoke earlier this
week about the irony that the sport is currently pushing to improve safety
measures yet we come and race in Monaco every year. I was just wondering
what your thoughts are on the safety of this circuit and whether the risk of
racing here is justified?
RB: Well, it was our driver who made the comment so…I think Monaco is a
unique race, but there have also been big efforts made here to make it as
safe as possible. We all know that motor racing can’t be 100 percent safe,
there is always some risk, but I think the developments in the cars, the
technology in the cars, the technology at the circuits is always progressing
well. Each year, I believe, it gets safer. There is risk and that risk
probably varies at different circuits, but I don’t think it’s a situation
that means we shouldn’t race there. I think it’s a manageable risk as it is
at most circuits or all circuits in Formula One.
Q: (Dieter Rencken – The Citizen) Vijay, you said Force India has got two
shareholders: the Sahara Group and yourself. Does that mean the Dutch are
now right out of the picture?
VM: They have a tiny minority left.
Q: (Dieter Rencken – The Citizen) OK, so they are still there though, yeah?
Fifteen percent, is that it?
VM: Yes.
Q: (Dieter Rencken – The Citizen) Monisha, given the recent history of
Sauber, was it particular sweet for your associate football team to win in
Munich?
MK: An interesting angle to look at it! We didn’t think of that at the time.
We really wanted Chelsea to win, and I will not get into any discussion as
to whether they deserved to win or not because we would probably then be
talking for a very long time. It was just a nice kick-off of the whole
partnership. It was the first time that we really were together in public,
being at such an event where you can just make more out of it in the future,
so it was a very nice kick-off of the partnership.
Q: (Kate Walker – Girl Racer) One of the things that you guys have discussed
today is cost-cutting. We’re also given to understand that there were
discussions on the same this morning. Could you please let us know what
progress has been made in talks on cost-cutting and cost reduction in the
sport?
RB: I think there’s been some good progress in the last few months. I think
the situation with FOTA where some of the teams left FOTA was unfortunate
because I think that was one of the main initiatives of FOTA. But that’s
continued. The FIA are now becoming more and more involved in cost-cutting
initiatives for the future. I think ultimately that’s who we have to rely on
to police the measures we need to take to control costs, because as the
costs have become let’s say more swingeing, as they’ve become harder to
meet, then it’s important that we all have the confidence that every team is
complying to the cost restraint regulations, the resource restraint
regulations and everyone’s applying the criteria in the same way and they
are all following the same rules. It’s very frustrating if you believe –
even incorrectly – that somebody is not following the rules. Within the
system we had, it was very difficult to have the right level of confidence.
I think the FIA have now, at the request of the teams, have become involved
and there’s a meeting next week which I think will be a very important
meeting to set the objectives and agree the methodologies and philosophies
that we want to control costs in the future. But it is an absolutely
essential part for Formula One for the future. I think we’ve seen the
situation with the new Concorde Agreement that’s been discussed amongst all
the teams and we need to make sure that a good majority of the teams have
got enough money to meet the limits of the resource restriction, that a team
that has a lot more money can’t gain any technical advantage. I think the
resource restriction, for me, is an essential part to safeguard the future
of Formula One. |