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PART ONE - TEAM
REPRESENTATIVES
Andrew GREEN (Aston Martin), Dave ROBSON (Williams), Laurent MEKIES
(Ferrari)
Q: Andrew, we’ll start with you. Aston Martin has brought a significant
upgrade to this race, so how are the new parts performing?
Andrew GREEN: Yes, we have. I think it’s very early days for the new
package. We’ve only done a couple of hours of testing, so we’ve still got an
awful lot to learn.
Q: What were the main weaknesses of the old spec car and have the upgrades
addressed those in the two hours that you've had so far?
AG: Well, the weaknesses of the launch car were quite apparent, even before
we'd launched it. And then, after launching it, and running, the issues were
compounded by additional problems that we encountered on track, that we
effectively… we tried as much as we could in the time we had to try and
resolve them but it was very much a dead end. I think our set-up options for
the launch car were very, very limited. So, we're hoping that this change
will allow us some greater set-up freedom.
Q: But what are the drivers been saying about the new spec?
AG: It's different! They still don't know; they're still learning. We still
don't know what the what the potential of the current car is. But all we
know is that it now gives us it gives a set-up options that we've never had
before.
Q: And in terms of the cost cap, can you just give us some insight into how
difficult it is to manage the developments of an upgrade this year.
AG: It needs to be incredibly well managed, to the point where… this car was
conceived in 2021 before… right back to chassis design, when we… because of
the new set of regulations, we weren't – unlike a few teams – we weren't 100
per cent sure which is the correct route to take. So, we gave ourselves
plenty of options on the chassis. We planned very early on to have a
significant change if we needed it around Race Six. So, when we launched,
with the launch car, we limited the quantities, and made sure the design was
adaptable at that time to allow us the freedom to do something like this.
Because if we hadn't planned for it early on, I don't think we'd have be
able to do it under the cost cap. Or if we had, this would be the very last
change we’d ever be able to make to the car. So, it does need to be
incredibly, incredibly well managed. And it gets harder and harder as the
season goes on.
Q: And Andrew, speaking personally, does it feel like you've been working
under a cost cap for most of your career? So in terms of how you're managing
your team, it's actually no different to how it was back in the Jordan days.
The Force India era…?
AG: Yeah, there is a the old Force India/Jordan mentality still there. But
we did have a couple of years where – shall I say – the genie was let out.
And so trying to pull that back in the bottle is quite difficult. But then
the mentality is still within the team. We still know how to work through it
really, to be efficient with what we do and how we spend. So it's not
something we're unfamiliar with. It's just something we've got to get used
to again.
Q: Dave, let's come to you next. Can we start by throwing it back to FP1
yesterday, and the performance of Nyck de Vries. What was his programme? And
how did he get on?
Dave ROBSON: He got on extremely well. His programme was the engineering
programme that Alex would have done had he been in the car. He executed it
really well. The way we set the tests up, his car was the baseline for the
new components that were on Nicholas Latifi’s car. He did exactly what we
what we needed him to do.
Q: Any plans to run him again this year?
DR: No, not at the moment. So that was that was his opportunity in FP1. One
of the two P1 sessions we have to give up by regulation to a young driver.
That was his one go.
Q: So Dave, tell us a little bit more about the FW44. What are the biggest
challenges with your car in terms of extracting lap-time?
DR: That's a good question. I mean, it's a little bit variable depending on
which track we’re at – but certainly it has it has a few through-corner
balanced characteristics that we'd rather it didn't have. But partly what
we've been doing during the season is trying to understand how much of that
is down to choices we've made, and we could genuinely have made different
choices – and therefore there is scope to improve it reasonably easily, and
how much of that is a feature of the regulation set. When we get such a big
change in regulations, you've got to very quickly work out what is
undesirable but almost unavoidable, and what we simply could have done
better. So, we've been working on that, we've got a pretty good idea, I
think, now of what we need to do, what the regulations allow us to do, and
we’re now finalising how to do it, or how best to do it most efficiently.
Q: Let's talk about your race drivers. Why has Nicky Latifi struggled more
with the car than Alex?
DR: Another good question I think he has struggled to get to grips with it a
little bit more than Alex, I suppose. Alex came in quite fresh, not knowing
what to expect, necessarily from either Williams or the new regulations set.
And his mindset was just to jump in and get on with it and deal with it.
Nicolas tends to think about things much more and, as soon as things aren't
quite as he wants them, then he does struggle a little bit more. And so
we're still coming to terms with exactly how we set the car up around the
tyres at any particular circuit, to allow him to drive the car as he wants.
So, I think there's it's just not quite clicking for him yet. And obviously,
we're working very hard with him to work out exactly how we get the best out
of it.
Q: What's impressed you the most about Alex Albon?
DR: Yeah, lots of things about Alex. I think his whole attitude is
outstanding. He's happy just to jump in the car, and make the most of what
he's got. And I think, probably best of all, his whole attitude to the races
has been has been outstanding. We've not had brilliant qualifying sessions
recently but on Sunday, he just strikes that balance between being
aggressive in attack, and defence. He just gets on with it, knows how to
manage the tyres and just puts together a really good race, which allows us
a little bit of flexibility on the strategy. We know that he'll respond to
it, deal with it and get the best out of the car. So, I think probably
that's the thing that's impressed me most is this whole approach to Sunday.
Q: Is it fair to make a comparison to George Russell?
DR: I suppose that's natural. Not just because of their time in the
Williams, but their whole history, I think goes back quite a long way. I'm
not sure it is necessarily fair or helpful to make comparisons. I think
they're different. But the results at the moment, I think, are probably just
as good, or at least as good with Alex. He's got a huge amount of talent.
Not just to drive the car, but I say to bring the whole team together and
make sure we get the most out of everything every Sunday. So, I think he's
got a he's got a very bright future, I think.
Q: Laurent, we've heard about the new parts on the Aston Martin. More bits
on the Ferrari this weekend. How are they performing?
Laurent MEKIES: Well, you know, Tom, it's early days for us as well.
Yesterday has been about exploring, we have been hoping for this first
package for a few races now. So we are taking our time to explore it. We are
taking our time to make sure we are able to set up the car correctly around
it. So, that's a little bit where we were focused yesterday. The first
indications are positive in a way that we will be will be racing this
weekend with both cars. And you will see, again in FP3, still some
explorations, both in terms of how we set up the car and in terms of
adapting our programme to make sure we understand the package correctly.
Q: Ferrari had a front row lockout at the last race. So what areas of
performance have you been trying to address with these new parts? Doesn't
look like you're lacking in that many areas.
LM: Well, you know, on one side as being the first package of the season, it
will be lying not to say that we are looking at an overall level of
performance, no? So it's not a particular element of the car in a way that I
think you guys have been describing our cars quite often as being ‘good all
around’. There was not a given weakness that we were targeting with a new
package, we knew that it, coming after five races, it had to give us some
core lap-time. That was the first target of the package. Then the other
aspect is, is the biggest topic on the on the technical side of the season:
porpoising. We were also targeting to get some improvement with that
package. So that's also what we have been exploring yesterday. So I will say
that it’s about those two aspects for us.
Q: Can we get a word on Carlos? He scored – what is it – half the points of
Charles in the opening five races? Just tell us how has the team helped him
get more comfortable in the car? And have you been surprised that he's
struggled – seems a harsh word – but he struggled as much as he has relative
to his teammate?
LM: Well, you know, at first, he’s still had a decent number of podiums,
three podiums in five races. I will not call it a struggle. It is fair to
say you are right that the car is born with characteristic that suit him a
little bit less. It is it is clear in his comments, it is clear in his
feedback, it is clear in what we see in the data. So, we are working with
him to try to tweak the car and to develop the car in a way that it can give
him the confidence he needs in some phase of the corner. So, we think really
much it's within those two aspects: giving him the time to get around the
car characteristic, and on our site to try to develop it and pull it towards
what he feels comfortable with.
Q: Now, given the points gap between your guys – it's more than 50 after
five races – and the closeness of this World Championship fight with Red
Bull and potentially others. Are we close to the point where some difficult
decisions need to be made on the Ferrari pit-wall with regard to favouring
one driver ahead of another?
LM: No, I think it's very early days for that. I think if you had a look at
last year, points difference at the beginning of the season, you could have
said the same thing. And in the end, things change. We are pushing a lot to
make sure Carlos can adapt, Carlos can get more comfortable. He has shown
extremely strong performance last year, we are convinced that he is going to
develop stronger performance in the very short term. So, there is… it's Race
Six of 22 races, we are very, very far from having the good problem you are
talking about. It is a topic for much later.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Christian Menath – motorsport-magazin.com) Question is for Andrew. There
has been quite some discussions yesterday about your car and it's no secret
that Aston Martin is growing massively at the moment, a few engineers came
from Red Bull. Red Bull said they have been downloaded some data from their
servers afterwards, after they left. Can you explain how big the
contribution of these engineers that came from Red Bull was to your new
package you have on the car this weekend?
AG: Yeah, I don't know what these accusations are that Red Bull are flinging
about. All I can say is that at no stage did we ever receive any data from
any team, from anyone. The FIA came in and did a thorough investigation,
examined all the data leading up, in the history of this car, they
interviewed all the people involved and concluded that it was completely
independent development. And to that point, where you're talking about
potential in employees, this car was conceived in the middle of last year,
as a dual route with the launch car and the majority of the releases were
made before anybody from Red Bull even turned up. So I think the accusations
are very wide at the mark.
Q: (Dieter Rencken – Racing News 365) Question to all three about the budget
cap, what the impact will be of the budget cap particularly on the upgrade
programmes that you had planned and whether these will continue, but more in
particular, Andrew if you could just also elaborate on whether the complete
change in car philosophy and direction means that you won't have any more
upgrades in future, or whether you very much restricted?
AG: Okay, I’ll answer that one first. Now, like I said at the top of the
interview, we planned for this from a very early stage, to be able to do
this this type of dual approach, and it does lead to a lot of management. Do
we have money left in the pot to carry on developing? Yes, we do. And we
will develop this car throughout the remainder of the season, but it is a
big challenge. It is a very big challenge, and one that really does have to
be managed really quite carefully.
DR: Yeah, I think I agree entirely with Andrew. It is a difficult challenge,
the cost cap is a constraint that is real. And it does affect what you can
do. But it's just part of the new challenge. And it's the same for all of
us, typically. But I think what you have to be is just ruthlessly efficient.
You have to be very confident, as confident as you can be from the wind
tunnel, or CFD, whatever the source of the upgrade is, that when you
actually commit to making it, and bringing it to the car that you a) you're
very confident that it will work – and maybe we do a little bit more, spend
a little bit more time doing that R&D than we would have done in the past.
And you also have to be confident that it will not only work now, but you
can see some future for it in terms of how you develop the rest of the car.
What you can't afford to be doing is chopping and changing bits. It's all
got to work coherently. And not just in the here and now but there has to be
some vision of what that will look like going forward. So yeah, it's a
challenge. But it's the same for all of us. So it's just a new part of game,
and we just have to be a little bit better than everybody else.
LR: Well, you know, I think it is a new aspect. And if you think back to how
long for we have been playing with Technical Regulations and Sporting
Regulations to make them rock solid as a sport? You have to admit the
Financial Regulations are still a very young set of regulations, and how do
we collectively make them enforceable? How do we make them equitable in all
situations? It’s a big challenge right now. We know is going to take time.
And therefore the key questions, we think, is how do you deal, how do we
deal collectively with these early years of the regulations, where we know
there is grey area, where we know there is things that needs to be improved?
One simple example is how do we now deal with the sort of force majeure type
of situations with inflation for example, that we've been discussing for a
long time. So we feel the FIA should have the power to make sure that the
rules are fairly applicable, and have the freedom in that case to make sure
that the system doesn't explode because of early days difficulties. And we
certainly think that in the long run, these will be a very good regulations
for everybody. In the first early years, we need to be very careful to make
sure we reach, as early as possible, the right level of enforcement and the
right level of definition. I think in the meantime, we need to have to have
some flexibility from all parties to avoid allowing things to collapse.
Q: (Adam Cooper – motorsport.com) For all of you, another question on a
financial race. Can you talk through a bit about how the day-to-day FIA
monitoring works? Because we haven't really heard much about that. How much
extra workload is there for you? And could that monitoring be even stricter
as Laurent suggested? Are there grey areas out there that teams can
potentially take advantage of?
LR: Well, you know, it's a very good point. There is some extra work from
the teams to do it. But that's fine, there is no way you are going to
enforce this type of regulations, if you don't do it, until the last per
centage, because even if there is small discrepancies out of the $140million
that weren't certified, even if you have a one-two-three-four million
discrepancies, it could mean one, two or three updates. So you need to nail
it, up until the very last details of the company structures and country
differences etcetera. And it's a level where we are not at currently. Simply
because the regulations are young. And this is why, in that early phase, we
all need to be very careful to have the necessary flexibility, to make sure
we still have a fair regulations, we still have a fair playing field for
everybody. And we keep going and keep enforcing regulations that is good for
the futures. And you know if you look at how many people you need to have
today on the technical departments of the FIA, for example to enforce the
regulations, you need to create these type of departments on the financial
regulations as well. And it takes time. They are doing a very good job, they
need all the all the support, and the freedom requested, to make sure they
can reach the right targets.
DR: Yeah, I think, as Laurent says, I think it's important for the sport.
It's a good direction to go in, and over time, we will make it work. But it
is a little bit tricky at the moment; it definitely is a bit of extra work,
a) to think about how you how you deal with it, and work within it, and then
b) the actual job of accounting for it. So yeah, it's extra work, we're sort
of feeling our way around it within the company, but also as an overall
sport. And hopefully, it will get better and easier. And we'll all tend to
have one way of doing things and everyone will largely agree – but I think
there's more work to do. And that's just part of the growing pains of it –
but it will be worth it once we once we get there.
AG: Yeah, from our perspective, from where the team has come from, we were a
small team with a with a limited budget, we could only spend what the budget
that we had. And so we're coming at the cost cap from probably a different
trajectory from a lot of the other teams, we're building up to it. But what
we found is that because of the nature of where the team started from, we
were missing a lot of the infrastructure required, or we were missing a lot
of the infrastructure required to be able to better manage under a cost gap,
to actually have the controls in place, and actually have the visibility in
place of what we were actually spending, what we're spending it on, how much
we're spending. And so, so there's been a huge amount of work over the past
year or so in putting together the infrastructure to be able to work with
this. As Laurent said, it's a new set of regulations. It's the third set of
regulations now that we're working to. We've spent our lives working with
technical and sporting regulations and this is a this is a brand new set of
regulations, the third one. So for us, it still is a case of putting in
place all the infrastructure to allow us to work efficiently without
burdening everybody with the cost gap, because otherwise it would burden
everybody because it's wide reaching. So it is and has been a real challenge
for us.
Q: (Luke Smith – Autosport) A question for Laurent and for Dave. Are there
any concerns for you guys about the similarities between the Red Bull and
the Aston Martin. Christian Horner had yesterday that it could set a
dangerous precedent depending on any action or lack of action the FIA takes?
Or is this just an inevitability given the restrictive nature of the regs
this year that we are going end up with such similar designs.
LM: Well at first we don't have any details, obviously, of what’s going on
between Red Bull and Aston Martin. So it's always difficult to comment from
an outside perspectives, but anyway, you're right, the copying question is a
tricky one. We have been going through that already a couple of years ago.
It's difficult to police. It's also difficult philosophically, to know where
you want to go based on the history of the sport and so on. As Ferrari, you
would like to think that so you know, today we enjoy very different cars on
the field. And I think as a brand, you would like to think that each brand
will have his own identity and that cars will be different. And that as a
group of engineers, as a brand in general, you would like to design
something of your own and to evolve something of your own. So hopefully,
it's a combination of that, and of the stronger regulations, will make the
sport steer away from the discussion.
DR: Yeah, I mean, I think in terms of the specifics of Aston Martin and Red
Bull, I don't have any information and nothing to say on that. Generally,
then, I think it is it is part of the sport that you don't necessarily copy
but you certainly look at other cars and you get inspired by concepts that
you can see on them and then developing those and understanding them and
seeing how they work on your car, and what the other teams are trying to
achieve, is all part of the game and always has been. Beyond that, I think
the regulations are quite clear on what you can and can't do. And it's down
to the FIA to police that and we trust that that they will do that and they
have the processes in place to do that.
Q: (Claire Cottingham – Racefans.net) Another question for Andrew. Can you
understand where these suggestions from Red Bull came from? And were you
quite surprised that it came out so publicly, maybe a bit disappointed that
it was so public that you had to hear about it?
AG: Yeah. Disappointed, especially with the fact that the FIA have made a
statement with respect to the car. And like I said before, they've come in
and they've looked, and they've declared that it's legitimate, independent
work. And I think they're the ones who see all the data, not just from us,
but from all the teams. So they're really are the only ones who can make the
judgement and by regulation they are obliged to make judgments on this. And
they have, and I think, for me, that's, that's the end of it.
Q: (Matt Kew – Autosport) A question for Laurent. In Imola in particular, in
Miami and in FP2 yesterday, Charles, in particular, seemed a bit concerned
with tyre degradation. Is that just a coincidence? It’s now been three in a
row? Or is it a trend setting in and what areas you isolating to try and
combat that?
LM: It's a good question. You know, it's no secret we were not happy with
our long runs yesterday. So you know, part of that was exploring a little
bit the new package and the set-up range of the car with a new package. But
you're right, we have been mastering it at some early races, in Bahrain, and
certainly in Australia, and the last couple of races have been a bit more
difficult. It's also the sort of things we are hoping to help with the with
the upgrades, in the way that you add more performance to the car, you are
able to give the tyres a bit of an easier life. So you know, all these
things are, are all working together. So we are still in the exploration
phase. But we are aware that we have probably dropped a little bit in that
area. And we want to go back up there.
Q (Ronald Vording – Motorsport.com) A question to Dave. Nyck de Vries told
us yesterday that he had only two and a half hours in the simulator before
jumping into the car. Given that limited time, which aspects of his
performance have impressed you the most? And secondly, not talking about
your own team but do you feel as a racing driver he has what it takes to
deserve a full time seat in Formula 1?
DR: Yes, I think everything he did yesterday was really good. He didn't put
a foot wrong. So as I said earlier, he completed the engineering programme
that we needed him to do, which for us was the most important bit. But, you
know, not only did he not have a huge amount of time in the simulator, we
gave him the prime tyre for his first run yesterday, which we knew would be
a little bit difficult, but at least it gave him the opportunity to do a
good number of laps. And then to go straight from that all the way to the
qualifying compound is a big ask for anyone and actually, you can see in the
lap time he did a very good job. So his pace was there. His ability to
understand the tire and do the out lap correctly, was really impressive. And
then after that, his feedback post-session was extremely good. He had some
very useful comments on the balance of the car, which agrees quite well with
what we've heard from the two race drivers. So I think in that regard,
considering he only gets an hour in the car, I think he did a really good
job and he clearly has what he needs to be to be an absolute top quality
competition driver. Yeah, he's worthy of a place on the grid, I think, but
so many people are. I think he took his opportunity well, yesterday and I
think he should be you should be pleased and proud of what he did.
Q: (Sam Hall – GP Fans) A question to Andrew again. You say that this is the
end of it with the discussion about Red Bull and the alleged copying. But
would you entertain the FIA coming back again to conduct their
investigations or do you expect this to actually be the end of it and a line
drawn under it?
AG: We expect it to this this to be the end. But we if the FIA want to come
back in again and do further investigations, we're more than happy for them
to do so. We've been completely open and honest with them through the whole
process. We've given them every access that they've requested. So if they
want to come back and do some more than that, I'm more than happy for that
to happen.
Q: (Dieter Rencken – Racing News 365) Andrew, twice in the last two years
there have been accusations and suspicions that your technical team in
particular, are unable to design a car without drawing major inspirations
from elsewhere. How do you as a creative engineer feel about these sorts of
accusations?
AG: I think that they're completely false. I mean, if you look at the
development of the car that is sitting out there right now, you'll see that
this has all happened towards the end of last year. Before we’d seen
anybody, you know, we were on a dual path. And, you know, it came as a
shock, but also, a surprise that Red Bull came out with a similar concept,
as well. But I think that just reinforced our feeling at the time that of
the two paths that that we had open to us, we'd gone the wrong way. And I
think that was that was confirmation of that.
Q: (Adam Cooper – Motorsport.com) A question for all of you about Monaco.
These are big, heavy cars, stiff suspensions, sensitive to ride. Drivers
have complained about visibility in placing the front wheels. How
challenging is next weekend going to be to get everything right?
AG: Yeah, all of that is going to be a challenge. We've got an additional
challenge that we’ve brought a reasonable change to these cars this weekend,
so we're going to be very much on the backfoot with respect to spares. So we
will be taking it nice and gently to start with, as much as you can around
Monaco. But I think one of the positives of the changes that we've made is
it does give us room to adapt the set-up to places like Monaco. It was one
of the things that the launch car would never have been able to give us. So
we're quite optimistic that we can now move in a direction with set-up
that's more sympathetic to a street circuit like Monaco.
DR: Yeah, I mean, Monaco is always a unique challenge every year. This year,
yep, it will be a little bit different, because the cars do require slightly
different things. But I think, ultimately, as long as you can ride some of
the bumps an the kerbs, then the most important thing is really just giving
the driver confidence that they can get round the corners, and they can they
can attack the whole lap. So in that regard, it's not too different. And if
you have to give up a little bit of downforce through ride height to get
that balance and confidence, then I think that's perfectly acceptable in
Monaco and something we would have done to varying degrees in the past
anyway.
LM: Same thing here, you know. The harder the challenge, the better it is,
no? I think it's good for the fans. It's good for the drivers, they want
this sort of challenge. It's good for the engineers. They also want this
sort of challenge. So it's everybody's looking forward for Monaco, so it
should be a good one.
PART TWO - TEAM REPRESENTATIVES
Jody EGGINTON (AlphaTauri), Pierre WACHÉ (Red Bull Racing), Mike Elliott
(Mercedes)
Q: Mike, we will start with you. So, Lewis said after practice yesterday:
‘We’re on our way’. Toto said: ‘We're in the mix’. Is that the case?
Mike ELLIOTT: I'm glad they're confident. I think we felt like we made a
good step forward yesterday. The car seemed a lot more settled. It did what
we were hoping it to do so. But I think we also look quite quick on Friday
in Miami. So I think we wait to see where we are in qualifying and the race
and then we will know.
Q: Are the solutions all linked to porpoising? Or is this newfound
performance linked to other developments as well?
ME: A bit of both. There is the normal development of the car that you would
do anyway and then I think we've done quite a bit of work to try and
understand the bouncing effects, to work out how we best mitigate those. And
we’ve brought bits that definitely settled the car down. So we just need to
see what happens now when we get into qualifying the race and see how much
of a step that's brought us.
Q: Mike, tell us tell us about the engineering challenge that you guys have
been through the last few months? I mean, how demanding has it been for the
teams in Brackley and Brixworth? And is this as big as anything you faced in
your career?
ME: Well, I guess, for me, I’m fairly new as a technical director, so it's a
huge challenge, I think we've been lucky enough to be right at the front for
a pretty big period of time and to now find ourselves chasing is a
challenge. It's also quite a lifting one, it's quite nice to be the
challenger, to be sort of coming from behind. I think there's a chunk of
pressure, because there's always going to be a chunk of pressure. But I
think from my point of view, as a technical director, what's been amazing to
see the amount of effort that's gone in at the factory. You know, the work
that's gone in, in aerodynamics, to understand it, the work in vehicle
dynamics, to see how we make the best of it. And then what's happened in
design and production to bring the parts that we've brought here. So this is
a challenge, you know. This is what engineers love. And while there's a
chunk of pressure, I think it's been a sort of healthy challenge, and one
we're enjoying,
Q: Mike, last one for me, does Mercedes still believe it can win the 2022
World Championship?
ME: Of course, we wouldn't be here otherwise, would we? I think that’s the
nature of sport. I think that until it's mathematically over, it's not over.
We're not a huge distance behind and if we can get the car into a position
where we're competitive, and hopefully out in front, then there's every
chance. But, you know, we've got to have a level of humility. These guys to
my right of have made a really good start, Ferrari have made a really good
start, and they're not going to be easy to chase down.
Q: Thanks. I'm sure there'll be some more questions for you in a minute.
Pierre coming to you. So your main rivals seem to have brought a lot of
upgrades this weekend. What's the situation at Red Bull?
Pierre WACHÉ: We set up our date not based on them for sure, as you can see.
You know, we based it on our supply chain, findings in the tunnel and
findings in the vehicle dynamics, and for us, the best one to put an update
was Imola, and we will have a little bit later another one.
Q: So given the situation with the developments up and down the pit lane,
you've won the last couple of races, yes, but do you expect this weekend to
be closer?
PW: I think I didn't expect to win the previous races also otherwise you are
not working as hard as we are doing. I don't know if it will be closer. I
think this layout is a favour more supposition in quali than the previous
race and overtaking is more difficult. It will be more challenging yeah.
Q: Can we talk about one of your drivers specifically Checo Perez, do you
feel he's made a step forward? Do you feel he's more comfortable in the car
and within the team than he was last year?
PW: The performance speaks for itself. For sure he is closer to Max. He’s
performing more. I'm not sure it's coming from him. It could also come from
the car. Looks like the car is suiting him better than the previous one. I
think it’s more the case than himself.
Q: Okay, Pierre, thank you very much. There'll be more questions for you in
a minute. Jody, coming to you. Pierre spoke yesterday about wanting his
first clean weekend of the season, as he called it. How are things going so
far?
Jody EGGINTON: Yeah, yesterday was not an easy day. We did a lot of
experiments with the car, tried a lot of different things. And, you know, we
learned a lot of things, but the performance is not quite where we expect it
to be yet. But the day was clean, you know. We had no major incidents there.
And he's been overly affected by that up to now. So there's some validity in
what he's saying. We haven't put the perfect weekend together yet. And
that's affected him, as it affected his team-mate as well. Yesterday was a
good start, but we're really focused on getting a clean weekend. As Pierre
said, qualifying is important here. We need to clean day to day and get the
most out of that. And then go from there. But yeah, up to now we hand on
heart, we can't honestly say we've had the sort of weekends we need to have
to be optimising what we've got.
Q: Is the ATO3 a difficult beast to tame. I mean, you were very quick in
Miami two weeks ago. But is it track specific and we're going to see you
fluctuate from race to race?
JE: I wouldn't say it's a difficult beast to tame. I think getting the most
out of it… at some circuits, we've been more successful than others. We're
still learning a lot about the car. You know, we don't have big updates here
but there's still performance in the car to extract and on the weekends
where we don't get that right in time, we pay the price. And if you align
that also to the incidents and reliability fusses we've had, you end up
dropping points, but no, I wouldn't say it's difficult to tame. It's just a
case of getting everything to click together over the weekend and extracting
the most out of everything and the points will come.
Q: Pierre's capabilities are well known. Quick word on Yuki. Do you feel
he's taken a step forward over the winter?
JE: Yeah, I do, honestly. He has taken a step forward, it hasn't manifested
itself as well as it could have done in terms of points scored and
qualifying. But yeah, he's taken a step forward. He's developing well, and
he's quicker. But again, it goes back to my previous comment. We've got to
be putting the weekends together. And he's part of that as well. And then it
will be demonstrated in points scored. So that's the objective. But yes,
he's taken a step forward, in my view.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Matt Kew – Autosport) Question for Mike. The FP2 pace both over the
second and third in the qualifying and medium tyres simulations look more
impressive. So sort of to pick up what you said, I am more confident that's
less of a flash in the pan than it was in Miami. And to compare to a dataset
you gathered here in pre-season testing. Are you more and more convinced
that this car concept is the one to stick with?
ME: Okay, so I guess picking up the first of those questions. I think after
Miami, we went and had a very good look through the data to try to
understand what happened between Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And I think
there's a few clues came out of that. I think the package we brought here,
we're definitely able to run the car in a position much more close to where
we'd ideally run it. So there's a chunk of downforce that comes from that.
And the car just is a lot more settled. I think as I said at the beginning,
the drivers look happy now. There's the sort of body language is coming from
them that says that they feel a car that feels a bit more like a race car.
So, you know, until we get into qualifying and the race, it's difficult to
know where we are. In terms of the overall car concept, I think it's still a
little bit too early to say. I think we've changed the car so much for this
weekend. We need to work out how we get the best out of it. We need to work
out what more lap time there isn't it and then then do the assessment as to
whether we think, overall, this is a better direction to develop in. As I'm
sure all colleagues here are facing there's a budget cap that's quite
constraining and as a consequence of that, you have to make good decisions
about both what we do for the rest of this year but also what we do for next
year.
Q: (Dieter Rencken – Racing News 365) Pierre, could you describe in your
best animated way, your reaction when you saw the green-coloured Red Bull as
some people call it please?
PW: Just by one word?! I was surprised, quite surprised to see a copy.
After, quite satisfied that they copy us to be honest, it means we didn't do
a so bad job. Sorry. I think for us the main aspect was to be sure that it
was done in the rules. FIA check and it looks like. We have on our side now
to check if we didn't have any IP leak, that is a is a main asset of the
team. We want to be make sure of that, that is what we are investigating at
the moment. But as a personal and engineering aspect, it was quite
satisfying that some other team copy us, it means our concept is not so bad.
Q: (Adam Cooper – motorsport.com) For all three of you: can you talk a bit
about the challenge of allocating resources under the budget cap. Pat Fry
said yesterday that there's ten times more performance to come from a floor
than a front wing for the same sort of cost. Does that sound familiar? And
secondly, how much extra workload is there now complying with all the FIA
requirements on the financial regs?
JE: Yeah, I think that's the case, really. With a budget cap, you need to be
spending - you really need to be focused on spending the money in the right
areas, and certain parts of the car can deliver more performance than
others, really. So you're looking at what you're doing in the windtunnel,
targeting where the biggest gains are putting, these packages together,
seeing what your strategy to bring development to the car. But always
lurking there is budget cap, how much money do you want to spend? How do you
want to go about doing it? The timing of the updates; do you rush them
through at greater expense, or bring them through at a different pace in
order to save some money, but then there'll be a delay in the update? And
then in the back of your mind as well there's also… OK, what about things we
haven't arrived at yet? Your money's got to go through the season. It's very
competitive, in our case, in the midfield, we want to keep developing, it's
a development war, we're also learning about the car race by race. So budget
caps are a really big part of it. You've got to manage that, together with
your development strategy so it's really important, it's a big focus. In
terms of the work surrounding it, the cost cap administration and all of the
extra work around it… yeah, it's an overhead as well. But you've got to do
it because it relates to performance. If you get it wrong and don't make the
right decisions, or don't, if your strategy is not right, then it'll affect
car performance so it's more work but it's an intrinsic part of what we have
to do now.
PW: I will not repeat what Jody said. I think we have the same challenge.
The main thing is just from my point of view it’s another constraint we
have. OK, before we had the resource constrained in terms of how much time
you can spend in the windtunnel, in CFD, how many people you have to work on
some topics. You have just another constraint in terms of money that you
have to play with, an engineering constraint. It’s not more difficult, just
another one. It’s more challenging because what you are predicting, it has
to be done before. It means if you make a group of people working on some
project, if it’s useless in terms of performance, you also lose money and
resource. The overall system has to be planned and challenged every day, on
how you spent the resource and money. That is something we didn't have in
the past. But yeah, it's a lot more work. The main aspect is, after that,
you try to be a lot more efficient than what we did in the past, especially
for us, to be honest.
ME: Not a lot more to say, really. I think engineers are good at challenges.
What we have to do is to make trades and that's always been the case,
whether that's between mass and aerodynamics, or the mechanical aspects of
the car and aerodynamics and the finance one’s just another part of that
challenge, a bit like Pierre said, and I think as engineers, it's almost
just that, it's just a different challenge we're solving and the playing
field’s moved. I think what has been really hard this year is sort of
dealing with the inflationary issues that everybody's facing. And where we
started out at the beginning of the year with knowing roughly what we're
going to try and do through the year, to deal with an inflation rate that's
as high as it is, is a big challenge.
Q: (Claire Cottingham - racefans) Another question for Pierre. We were just
speaking to Aston Martin's Andrew Green. He was saying he was quite
disappointed with how Red Bull sort of made it quite public about the
issues. Was there ever a question that you kind of wanted to do it behind
closed doors? Why was it important for you to be so vocal about him?
PW: Oh, we were not asked, I think. We were not aware, we discover the car
as you. I think it was coming from you, to be honest, in the public domain,
then we discover the car. I am not sure that we make a massive voice about
it. It’s just we want to be sure we protect ourselves and as we just
mentioned before on the budget cap, you know, the main aspect of the budget
is our IP, that we want to make sure that how we spend our money is secure
and our asset is secure.
Q: (Christian Menath – motorsportmagazin.com) Pierre, you're talking about
IP, and that you want to make sure that there is no leak in your IP but is
there automatically a leak in your IP when you lose some of your engineers
to rival teams? And is it possible to take that knowledge, just in your
head, to copy a car like that?
PW: We cannot control the heads of the people. It's part of our industry
that we have transfer of people in engineering It's like a football team,
you know, the football players are the engineers in this business. I think
it is not what we are after, it’s more if we have some electronic file or
file leak in the system, but we cannot control what the people know and what
the people transfer with what they know. You cannot ‘unknow’ something. That
is not something we are after.
Q: Mike, can we get your thoughts on this as well? Just how much can you
carry in your head?
ME: What, me personally? I think the rules are fairly clear that there
should be no IP transfer between teams so I believe the FIA have looked at
this, and concluded that that is not the case. But Pierre probably knows a
lot more than I do about that. I think just as a general point, the business
always had people move from team to team and it's impossible to… as they
leave a team sort of brainwash them before they go into the next one. So
what is in your head is in your in your head, I think, and if that is sort
of methodologies, thoughts about how you might do something, I think that's
fine. I think if it turns into detailed design, that becomes questionable
and if it turns into proper IP transfer, i.e. you’ve taken something with
you, that's clearly not acceptable and we've seen in the past that that's
been punished. But as I said before, I believe the FIA have looked at this.
They've done whatever they need to do to make themselves confident that they
believe it's okay, but that's really for Pierre's team and for Andy Green's
team to sort out.
Q: (Luke Smith – Autosport) Mike, you mentioned the body language from the
drivers and saying we got positive vibes from them about all the updates,
particularly with Lewis through the early part of this season, how have you
seen his attitude? How has it been? And how impressed have you been by, I
guess, the adversity he's facing and you guys are facing? It's pretty
uncharted territory, given all the dominance you've had, to take the team
back up to the top?
ME: Yeah, I guess we all have expectations, drivers included and we'd hoped
we wouldn't be in the position we've been in at the beginning of this
season. That's been tough. It's been tough for the whole team. I think what
happened at the end of last season, I think was probably tough for Lewis to
take, and I think to see him bounce back and be racing with us is brilliant.
Think he's got a tough teammate in George and that's brilliant for the team.
And I think if you look at the first five races, unfortunately, Lewis has
been on the wrong end of some Safety Car timing, but I think going forward,
I couldn't want for two better drivers. They're really helping us develop
the car, move it in the right direction and if we can give him a car that
they can compete with, I'm sure they're both going to push really hard and
hopefully Lewis can win another championship.
Q: (Dieter Rencken – Racing News 365) To all three of you, you obviously
monitor the technologies and updates of your competitors, as sporting
directors do the same on the sporting side. Do you also now monitor the
upgrades from a financial perspective to see how the teams are spending
their money, to get an idea whether they will plateau earlier or later in
the year.
JE: Yeah, I mean it's always of interest. We keep a close eye on what other
people are doing. And if a solution is brought by a competitor, we'll look
at it. And in the course of our own investigations, if we're looking at
something similar or considering how it might have worked differently to
something we've done similar, yeah, we'll have a consideration of what are
the costs, what's involved in it. It’s part of the design and evaluation
process. Anything we do, especially now with budget cap, there's a big focus
on understanding what the costs will be: upfront costs, ongoing costs, what
the life of that part will be. So if we're looking at another team's
components, yes, we're looking at that as well. And potentially, we could
get to a point in the year where we say, well, that team has done an awful
lot of work this year. How have they done that? But it's something you've
arrived at at a certain point. At the moment the focus is trying to
understand how to get the fastest car out. It's always there in the
background, on the financial side of it, but it's not something we're overly
focused on. It comes naturally as part of the analysis process, I would say.
PW: We are looking at the other updates. Sorry. We are looking in terms of
update; after it's very difficult to anticipate the cost, the spend on this
type of update, to be honest. Already on our side it’s very difficult to
anticipate. You know, it's so dependent, as Mike said… the inflation is
changing every day. The cost of each component, each material are changing.
Where you are doing these components, if you do internally, externally. If
it's a change of components itself, the mould, the tooling, then already to
concentrate on ourselves and to understand what the others are doing
technically – and if we give us some idea or not – is already a massive
work. If we are on top of that, to anticipate that cost, it will be very
difficult. We have already to concentrate on our costs, we try to make very
efficient parts, very good way to reduce the cost of each component that is…
I am struggling to see how I can anticipate the cost of the others, to be
honest.
ME: To be honest, I agree with the comments already made. I think what you
see at the track is only a proportion of the costs in parts. Big cost is in
the people and in terms of the IP development in the factory. So trying to
turn that into a prediction of a cost is very difficult.
Q: (Matt Kew – Autosport) Questions to Pierre and Jody. Pierre, will you be
considering taking more action over the Aston Martin and Jody will
AlphaTauri be taking action, because while it might be Red Bull that feels
most aggrieved, I suppose you don't want see Aston Martin overtake
AlphaTauri.
PW: No, we have action internally, for sure. I think we are open minded
ourself in terms of IP, to be sure that you have no leak apparent to our
system. But it could happen to another team to be honest, not only to Aston
Martin. It’s being diligent, we have to do ourselves. In terms of action
with the FIA, I think the responses from the FIA are clear, and looks like
the car itself and the way to achieve it was legal, then we don't do any
more action on this aspect until we find something on our side.
JE: From our side, when I sort of echo what Pierre has said, they're really…
the FIA have done their investigation, they're satisfied. As we move into
the business end of this weekend and then out the other side of the race, it
could possibly be a discussion point. But obviously at the moment we're
focused on ourselves, trying to get the best out of the car, collect points,
and then we'll see beyond that, but it's not at the forefront of my mind at
the moment. We've got other things to focus on to be honest.
Q: (Andrew Benson – BBC Sport) This is for all three of you: the FIA said
that the Aston Martin design was arrived at by legitimate independent
research. The Red Bull appeared in its updated form on the 12th of March.
How credible is it on the one hand that someone can apparently copy a car to
this extent in that shorter time? Or on the other hand, that one team can
come up with a design so similar to another, entirely on its own?
ME: I’ll just quickly try and do the math and work out how long that is! I
mean, it's impossible to know, I think, if you look at the way the
regulations are policed aerodynamically, we have to take a photo of the
model every run that happens so the FIA can go back and look at all the
photos of every run that's been done in the tunnel, they can go and look at
all the CFD models that have run, so they can see exactly what that
development path looks like. Obviously, I've got no view of what that looked
like for Aston Martin so I can't comment as to when they were developing it,
what was independent, what was from looking at images of other cars? I
think, most likely it's come from looking at images of the Red Bull, which
is okay, that's within the regulations so I think it's really difficult to
comment on how achievable that is. Only Aston Martin will know that.
PW: I'm not sure I will add more on that, to be honest. We didn't copy a car
in the past, but it's difficult to know. To be honest it's so dependent of
your chain of development, you know, going to design, to manufacture and if
you do it internally or externally, this part, and how you evaluate in the
tunnel. I think, as Mike said, It is better to ask Aston Martin how they are
able to achieve that. FIA said it was in the proper manner, then I have no
comment on it more than that.
JE: Yeah, nothing really to add, I think these two guys have covered all the
bases really. The process, you follow and the data and paper trail which is
left as a part of that process is what's been evaluated. The FIA is
satisfied and as to how they actually arrived there clearly, and the
sufficient data to say it's okay, so I can't really add anything else
really.
Q: (Adam Cooper – motorsport.com) Mike, as champions, you've been at the
wrong end of the ATR (Aerodynamic Testing Restrictions) table for quite a
while, including while this car was developed last year, while you've tried
to fix it the last few months. How much of a handicap has that been, and
equally, how much of a benefit will it be? There's a reset in July and
potentially you're going to move up a couple of places relative to Red Bull
and Ferrari.
ME: Well, clearly it has some impact. I think relative to Red Bull, it's not
very much, it's sort of a run a week, something of that order so it's fairly
small, but then we don't have very many runs a week in the tunnel to start
with. I think to Ferrari, it's been a bit more and we'll see. I think it
gets reset at the end of June so hopefully that will play in our advantage.
I think we just have to be honest with ourselves as a team and say I don't
think that's the reason we've struggled, I think we've struggled with the
bouncing and that has sort of held us back. And while the ATR increase will
be an advantage it's probably not the game changer it might be. I think more
to the point is we've just got to get on top of our issues and get the car
moving in the right direction, and hopefully we’ve made a good step this
weekend.
Q: (Sam Hall - GP ans) Pierre, the FIA is obviously satisfied with what it's
found with its investigation to Aston Martin but if the Red Bull internal
investigation finds that there was a leak, would Red Bull lobby the FAA to
reopen its investigation into Aston Martin?
PW: I think we will not lobby FIA. We will for sure inform the FIA that in
the rules it’s clear that IP transfer could not happen. It has happened in
the past and it was clear. I think clearly is the FIA will be part of the
process if we find something for sure. |