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TEAM
REPRESENTATIVES: John HOWETT (Toyota), Flavio BRIATORE (Renault)
ENGINE MANUFACTURERS: Norbert HAUG (Mercedes)
Q: What are your views on the draft proposals for new regulations, John?
John HOWETT: I think the first point is that if you read the draft
regulation the FIA has moved a long way from almost an exclusion of
technology to actually meet quite a lot of the suggestions put forward by
the manufacturers and teams, so there was a positive sign of movement in
that direction. I feel quite a large number of areas, particularly
aerodynamics, where both sides agreed the general direction to reduce
downforce and increase mechanical grip and improve overtaking, but still I
don’t think either the FIA or the teams have the ideal all-perfect solution.
And then finally, on the implementation of technology, which allows
manufacturers to demonstrate technology, I think everyone thought it was a
positive move but the manufacturers asked for more time to study the
implications and how, in the end, they can support independent teams with
this technology, regardless of the direction.
Q: But generally speaking you feel it is moving in the right direction?
JH: I think there is still a long way to go but from a regulation that was
excluding a lot of technology and capability there has been a significant
movement from that position towards the position of the nine-plus-five, so
the trend is very positive.
Q: Flavio, what are your opinions?
Flavio BRIATORE: I agree with John. I still believe that whatever the
Federation wants to do for 2008, reducing costs and increasing spectacle, we
agree at Renault, because what we are doing is decreasing our cost and
everybody together. The federation is moving in our direction as well and
together we make this effort. Regarding aerodynamics, in the last ten years
we have tried to make a car for overtaking and have never succeeded in that.
This process is not easy, but we need to arrive at this point, between us
and the Federation, and I believe the final result will be like that. So we
are moving the right way.
Q: Norbert?
Norbert HAUG: I can support what the colleagues have said, but I think we
have to keep in mind where the whole discussion all started. This is not a
technical discussion in the first place, it is a discussion what can we do
for the spectator, and I think that has been a big change in the last couple
of years. Formula One is, and was, very much technical but at the end of the
day we need to communicate to the customer and for us the most important
customer is firstly on the racetrack and then on the television. Of course,
they like to see overtaking so we should investigate how we can encourage
overtaking. Currently, you saw it at the last race in Monza. It is virtually
impossible to get close to the car, even if you have a faster car, you are
three seconds quicker, you just will not make it through a fast corner
because 10m or 15m behind you get understeer and cannot cope with it. Having
said that, it is no criticism. It is not easy to achieve that but we have to
find solutions for that and they have to be the right solutions. It was not
for a lack of trying in the past. We wanted to achieve that, all of us, but
we just couldn’t manage it. That is an important issue. Hybrid comes in
place, the only reason for that is to save some energy, to store some energy
then have the energy in place when it comes to overtaking.
We can discuss further issues, like the overtake button, like what we are
doing currently with higher revs, this is very similar. You probably already
go to 300 or 400 revs higher and if you could find a solution to get 1000
revs higher that probably that might help with overtaking. It is very
difficult if you already rev 20,000 with a new V8, to go to 21,000, you can
try it but probably only one time and that is why I think we have to bring
all these things together. But the positive thing is there is an
overwhelming impression in all these discussions that the spectator is in
the middle of it and that is fine for us and I think fine for the other
manufacturers and that is what we are working on.
Q: One other thing that has come up recently, slightly allied with these new
rules, is the prospect of B-teams. What are your feelings about those, one
or two of you are slightly involved in one way or another, it is rumoured
that McLaren could have a B-team, I don’t know what you would say about
that, also Toyota already supply engines to another team. What are the
feelings about B-teams?
NH: We currently have no decisions, not at all. It is true; there was an
idea in place to form a Team Dubai. The team was asked, there were
negotiations and there was a proposal in place. Currently we have different
discussions but nothing precise, nothing planned for 2007. The story was we
would use McLarens or change McLarens or whatever, but to my knowledge we
cannot use McLarens, for a B-team, that is not allowed by the rules, and I
think everyone should know that we are very much against used Formula One
cars. We don’t think that is the key to the future. We think it is against
the independent teams if you sell used McLarens, Renaults, Ferraris and so
on. We don’t want to have that and this needs to be properly discussed. So
the rumour that used McLarens can to run in 2007 is not possible according
to the rules. I don’t know where this story comes from. Of course, there are
discussions in place, there are contacts with various people, but no
decision and I cannot see how that could happen in 2007 really, maybe things
are changing but you need your own car, as far as I am concerned. This is
how I read the rules.
Q: Even though the 2008 rules would allow you to buy equipment from other
teams?
NH: But they do not. That is in discussion. They do not. To my knowledge, we
have no second hand cars in 2008. Firstly we do not have the rules in place,
secondly there are ideas on the table but this was never confirmed or
written into the rules that used Formula One cars should be the future from
2008 onwards. Or I got it wrong, I don’t know.
Q: Flavio, your feelings?
FB: I feel a bit different from Norbert. We need to find a way to have a
better show in Formula One. Formula One is a television event. Technology is
important, everyone has technology. In GP2 we have technology and it is only
a question of the way you packaged the technology. For me it is really
strange. The GP2 championship costs 0.65 percent of what the Formula One
championship costs. I don’t know what the difference is. We talk every year
about all these technologies and things like that and in the meantime we
have the spectators walking away from the television. In that time we have
less spectators in the grandstand, and I mean, I see people enthusiastic to
see GP2. I don’t understand why GP2 cost 2.5 million and our team and other
teams cost maybe between three and five hundred million. I do not see what
the difference is. Regarding the car, and this is my idea from the
beginning, it has not changed, if you have the freedom, why does the Jordan
team need 300 people or 250 people. We need to encourage people to come into
Formula One so maybe for one or two years you allow them to buy a car. I see
nothing wrong. I did that many years ago with Benetton and Ligier. Benetton
was always quicker than Ligier because the difference is the organisation,
the driver and whatever. I mean, I have nothing against that. What I really
want to see is a more human Formula One, have a better show for our public
and not spend this money we spend. Because for me, you see the race of GP2
and the race of Formula One and maybe next year the difference of GP2 to
Formula One is just four or five seconds difference. Really, I don’t know
what the magic about our racing is. I see a lot of magic in GP2.
Q: John, what are your feelings?
JH: It depends what you mean by a B-team. We agree with Flavio that we need
more teams on the grid, we would welcome that and Toyota, as a manufacturer,
is prepared to make its commitment to Formula One and supply another team
with an engine at what we believe is a competitive price and offering high
value. I think then perhaps there should be some benefit between the teams
as a consequence of that co-operation, but I don’t see it as a B-team.
Q: So your idea is much more as an engine supplier as you are at the moment.
NH: As an engine supplier. Our core business is to win as Panasonic Toyota
Racing, no discussion. But at the same time our research shows the consumer
is interested in technology but we need to make that technology available to
the smaller teams so that they can compete and compete on a fairly equal
basis.
Q: John, yesterday I asked Ralf Schumacher if he was disappointed not to
have won this year because you have been so competitive. What are the
general team feelings?
JH: I mean, obviously we are here to win but I think we acknowledge that
there are two teams beside me that are quicker than us. We are working hard,
we have had a good season, we think we are racing well, we are getting the
maximum out of the package but we acknowledge that we have still got 20
percent more to push to really attach the top teams and we are focused on
it. We are happy both drivers are delivering as a total value to us as a
team in the complete array of testing through to racing.
Q: Flavio, Fernando Alonso has done a fantastic job this year. How have you
seen him change? He is still very young. How is he withstanding the pressure
at the moment?
FB: He is young but he has now had four years in Formula One, he is not a
new entry. Fernando is cool. It is a fantastic championship at the moment;
we have a bit of an advantage to Kimi. We know McLaren that in the second
part of the season McLaren is quicker than us but we know in the first half
of the season we were better. Fernando, I believe, is no doubt doing the
best for the performance we have at this moment. We need really to be cool,
to concentrate, we know McLaren is quicker but what is important is to
finish in the race, this is what we say to do. After that I don’t see any
problem with Fernando. The team is together and really there is no pressure.
Sure, you have the pressure because everyone asks you every day where the
party is or stupid stuff like that. We don’t want to do any party. At the
moment Fernando won six races and after Sunday we will see how many points
we have. There are four races to go and maybe we will fight to the last race
with Kimi but that is good for Formula One as well.
Q: He seems to be very concentrated, very constant. What other qualities do
you see in him?
FB: This year, Fernando’s one mistake was in Canada. After that, he has been
fantastic. In the races he is terrific. Sometimes in the qualifying Kimi is
quicker, but this year Kimi is fantastic as well. If you see the difference
between Kimi and Montoya, Kimi has an incredible feeling with this car. I
mean, sometimes Kimi is really difficult to beat but we know that. It is
important to recognise where you are. With the car we have at the moment it
is not so bad, we have the possibility to be second and third in the races
and that is what we choose to do. Maybe we will have the possibility in
Brazil to win the race as well, we have a big step in aerodynamics there, we
will see. But I am not complaining.
Q: Norbert, what are your feelings about Kimi and to some extent Fernando as
well?
NH: Fernando has had a great season, there’s no doubt, not a lot of
mistakes. I see things a little bit differently obviously.
Compared to Flavio, I wanted to make one remark: you cannot say GP2 on the
one hand and then on the other hand vote for the V8 which is revving to
20,000rpm. To my knowledge that costs a lot of money, so we need to bring
things together. And to point it out very clearly we are the ones mentioning
saving money at each and every meeting. And I brought up the point in Monaco
last year already. There are cheaper ways – you all know that – than we have
right now but let’s sit together and let’s take the right decision.
I think there is no comparison between GP2 and Formula One at all. I think
it’s a good racing series, no doubt, but we shouldn’t compare one with the
other. That is the first remark and I think it is very important not to mix
these things. Anyway, coming back to your question. Fernando: I have a lot
of respect for what Renault has done. They are good, they are reliable, a
good team. At the end of the day, they are the old Benetton guys – I know a
lot of them, they have a lot of experience and that is fine. They do a good
job and as Flavio pointed out, at the end what counts is who has got the
most points over the course of the season.
Having said that, I think none of you would have thought that we are
starting as big favourites in this year’s World Championship. We had some
difficulties at the beginning of last year but from the middle of last year
we were heading in the right direction and we have had some ups and downs,
such as happens in motor racing.
We have had a race in Turkey and in Monza which were very very stressful for
the engine, probably the toughest combination together with Monza and Spa
and we survived and we gave the engine a lot of revs. But, of course, we
have had to change (engines) three times; we recovered during the races. We
have been unlucky here and there but by and large our direction is the right
one. Nobody is leaving from the team and I have to support that team. We
clear up some of these issues internally. It’s fine when we are criticised
but I have to see that the direction is the right one and obviously if
Mercedes get things wrong we probably get a little bit more criticism. That
is normal, but we won seven out of the last ten races – should have been
more but it isn’t a bad score at the end of the day. I’m a sportsman and I
know that things like that happen from time to time. I do not wish it on
anybody, but none of us knows what’s happening tomorrow. And that’s how the
sport is. Generally our direction is the right one, I’m 100 percent
convinced, and I still think we are not at the top of the mountain, but we
are climbing very quickly.
Q: Just going back to that, Montoya has had to have an engine change today,
a precautionary engine change; how much of a worry is that for Kimi over the
next couple of days?
NH: I don’t think he thinks about these issues really. Once you are in a
racing car and I think you have to imagine you are in a racing car that
needs full concentration, and outside of the car you probably think, well,
keep my fingers crossed and hopefully it works according to plan. But in the
car, that shouldn’t be a problem and you saw that in Monza, Kimi is
absolutely amazing. He got criticised as well which probably makes him
stronger. The last one was a completely unfair attack and a lie, but at the
end of the day, that is how the stories go sometimes. It was not true what
was written, but anyway, he’s doing a great job. And whoever saw his lap
after the engine change, the amount of fuel he has had in Monza – I just
have to say that I take my hat off to him, and this was fantastic. He drove
a great race, got stuck on traffic at the beginning, still recovered, had
his engine problem, without that he would have been in a position still to
win and that shows his potential and the car’s potential. But one thing is
for sure, without the technical potential, without the potential of the car,
the best guy in the world cannot do that and Kimi and us and Montoya, I have
to say, is a good and strong combination. Juan Pablo is getting stronger and
stronger. He didn’t win by luck, he didn’t win by luck at Silverstone and I
am deeply convinced that he is absolutely on the right path and that he has
driven great races. At least since Canada he was in a position to win four
times at least, and he won two of them and so that is a great achievement
and a good direction.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Heinz Prüller – ORF TV) Flavio, you could achieve a historic double: the
first team boss to win championships with two completely different teams. So
far nobody has done that. How do you feel about that, Benetton and then
Renault, Benetton with Ford, now Renault? How do you see that and can you
compare the way you brought up Michael to the championship and now trying to
do the same with Alonso?
FB: For the moment I only won the World Championship with Benetton, this is
sure, but as I said before, McLaren have won seven races, we have won seven
races. This is the situation this year. The championship is not finished; I
don’t feel I have the Drivers’ champion at the moment. I feel that I am
fighting to the end. I don’t want to think about that I won the
championship. But I am pretty sure I will finish second. This is a good
result for Renault anyway.
Because for sure, when we started in 2001, it was only four years ago and
nobody put a penny in our team. And now we are there with McLaren and I
believe we have done a good job. Four years in Formula One, I think this is
fantastic. And Benetton was unique. The budget we had there, beating Ferrari
and Williams at the time was really magic. Again, it took us four years to
win the championship. I hope it’s a good season for us, but really, we have
a very nice group of people, young and I don’t know, we still have fun. I’m
still around because in the end, we still have fun. Let’s see what happens
on Sunday.
Q: (Dan Knutson – National Speedsport News) Flavio, if anything has gone
wrong this year it seems to have happened to Fisichella rather than Alonso.
Has this just been a long string of bad luck for Fisichella or what has been
going on?
FB: I mean, this is the best season Fisichella has ever had. He won a race,
he was on the podium. He has problems sometimes. Honestly, everybody knows
that in one team it is impossible to make two cars different. We try doing
the best for both cars, but in another way, the team is very young. We
started the 100 percent Renault team in 2001. Maybe we don’t have enough
people or enough efficiency to make sure we have two cars at the same level.
Sometimes it was Fisichella’s mistake as well. We tried all the best to have
two drivers to finish in the race, it is normal. But I tell you, sometimes
it happens that somebody is unlucky, sometimes you don’t know why it
happened but it did and this is the situation you accept. At the last race I
believe Fisichella did a fantastic job for the team. I don’t think
Fisichella’s season has been so bad. I think it is just that Fernando’s
season has been fantastic. This is the difference. Fernando has done an
amazing season, no mistakes, never and sometimes he had much more luck than
Fisi. This is life.
Q: (Alain Pernot – Auto Journal) Flavio, which title is most important for
you, Drivers’ or Manufacturers’?
FB: When you apply to the championship, it is the FIA Drivers’ championship.
It isn’t the FIA Manufacturers’ or Constructors’ Championship. You remember
Schumi won with Ferrari, you never remember this year somebody won the
Constructors’ Championship with another team. The Drivers’ championship is
the only one.
Q: (Alan Baldwin – Reuters) Flavio, when a driver wins the World
Championship, his value usually goes up considerably. Are you going to give
Fernando a pay rise next year? Can he expect more money?
FB: Sometimes it goes up, sometimes it goes down. It depends on the contract
you have. Fernando is very happy, and I don’t think it is a problem with
money. It is just a problem to finish in the races. This is the problem you
have, not money.
Q: (Dan Knutson – National Speedsport News) John, how keen is Toyota to have
the Japanese Grand Prix moved to Fuji? And is there maybe a possibility of
having two Japanese Grands Prix in the future?
JH: Honestly, I run the racing team and I’m not really involved in Fuji
Speedway. I think Toyota obviously would love to have a Grand Prix there,
that is something they will have to discuss with the commercial rights
holder, I presume, with Bernie, and we have to wait to see. I am frankly not
involved with that sort of discussion at all. I know they’ve built it,
they’ve improved it and they are passionate about motor sport and they would
like to have a Grand Prix there, but whether it happens or not is beyond my
control.
Q: (Tony Dodgins – Autosport) Flavio, you talk about the numbers involved in
current Formula One teams, and if you restrict the engine technology and you
cut down on testing, save costs, you reduce employees. What do you see as
the ideal size for a Formula One team and what happens to the excess
employees?
FB: Sometimes you do something to keep somebody’s job. I believe it’s the
market. I don’t think it’s a problem for a group like us and Mercedes to
re-locate people, especially in the engine situation, because we always need
good engineering and the engineering in Formula One is very good. But what I
believe is that in the future we need to look at more income, because this
is what the teams want and the manufacturers want. For the job we are doing,
in more than one way, you need it to be less expensive, because there’s big
money there.
I believe that, as Norbert says, we need to sit together and really have a
focus what we want to do. And I believe we are getting there because it is
the process between us working with the Federation to have this.
I don’t see any problem with the employees, at this moment. I talk about
Renault anyway. I can’t talk about another manufacturer, because we need a
lot of good people in Renault. But we are talking about sport, we are
talking about Formula One. At the moment, we are talking about between 800
and 1000 people and I think it is a little bit too much. I don’t want to do
any comparison with GP2, I don’t want to do any comparison. The difference
is so enormous, it’s not a comparison, but honestly, I think if we go in the
last five our six years there have been an explosion of costs. I believe
that, especially in 2008, if it’s possible in 2007 already, try to increase
the television event for our customer and cut costs.
Q: (Heinz Prüller – ORF TV) Is there bonus money for team bosses, team
managers for World Championships as there is for drivers?
FB: You know, tell me one day if something happens to count how much money I
make? It’s very complicated. We are in this business for winning a race and
maybe for winning a championship and if you are winning a race, this is a
miracle, you’ve done a good job. It’s as simple as that, I believe everyone
is in Formula One to win a race, and sure you have a base salary - this is
for a driver - and if you then want to motivate the driver there is some
bonus. But it is something very internal which we discuss.
Q: (Alan Baldwin - Reuters) Norbert, you alluded earlier to the Dubai team;
that was more than a year ago and we really haven’t heard anything about it
since. Is it still active or is it now dead in the water?
NH: Let’s say there are contacts with McLaren with the people but it is in a
static situation.
Q: (Dominic Fugère – Le Journal de Montreal) About today’s topic. The
weather is very changeable. How have things changed, maybe over the last
five years, about how the teams predict the weather and get ready for
conditions like we’ve had today. Is it in-house people, services you hire,
how is that worked?
FB: Everyone tries to work out the best possible (situation) but you are
fighting with nature, it is not easy, especially in Spa. We’re doing our
best. Everyone has the same information but it is very difficult to predict
exactly what will happen? In some areas yes, but Spa is very very difficult.
Q: What do you do? You have an agency?
FB: I believe everyone is organised as best as possible, but today our
forecaster got it completely wrong. We know it was going to be showery but
the timing was different. It is very difficult to predict exactly the
minutes, the seconds. Sometimes it does happen, I think it was in America
and it was quite close, but if it is raining, it is the same for everyone.
Q: Ron said they were very pleased with their weather forecasting, he
believes it’s going to be very accurate, so do you use a different agency?
Perhaps you can explain to Dominic what sort of agency and how it’s all
worked out?
JH: We have a weather station here on track and they were fairly accurate
today so that is why we ran quite a lot in the morning session and we tried
to get some evaluation done but the lap times were obviously fairly slow. In
this location our weather station will not give an accurate forecast for
tomorrow. And really, with all these things, you need to use some physical
or mental system and you need to stick your hand out and see is it raining
or not and use some physical or mental interpretation of the actual
information you’ve got. It’s a fairly low-cost service that we get, but it
actually probably occasionally enables us to make better decisions but not
every time, I promise you. |