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TEAM PRINCIPALS: Gerhard
BERGER (Toro Rosso), Mario THEISSEN (BMW Sauber), Martin WHITMARSH (McLaren
Mercedes)
Q: Gerhard, last weekend you must have been very encouraged by that
performance, Sebastian Vettel’s qualifying and Sebastien Bourdais’
performance during the race itself.
Gerhard BERGER: Everything was fine. It was a good performance by the team
but unfortunately we still had a couple of technical problems. When you
start with the old car, obviously, that is exactly what you want to avoid.
But you can see the team is still small, it is still at the beginning and
mistakes are still happening. We had a failure on the drive-shaft and that
is why we stopped two laps before the end. Obviously that is hurting a lot
and that’s some points that we lost. But nevertheless, if someone had told
me before we went to Australia that you are going to have one car in the
first 10 and one car in the points I would have been very happy.
Q: What about the fact that you are going to have the new car in Turkey or
Spain? A new car but that chassis at the moment is having a lot of problems.
GB: We are going to face the problems and try to sort it out.
Q: Do you have to take that car or might you prefer to keep the old one?
GB: Well no, I think that the potential of the new car is better. It is
clearly, clearly forward. We just see a couple of problems and we have to
work on them.
Q: Will you let Red Bull Racing sort them out?
GB: I mean everybody is going to work hard on whatever problem he faces.
Obviously, it is going to be different cars with different engines and
different lay-outs, but we will just sort out the problems we face when we
run our car.
Q: And the future of the team? Since Australia Dietrich Mateschitz has put
out this statement or has been quoted as saying that obviously he cannot
build two separate cars, so one team will have to go.
GB: We fix the problem, nobody can afford it. Just put the price up and
nobody is going to buy it and we can stay like we are. No, I think
obviously, always there are three or four independent teams struggling in
F1. It is always a fight. It is a financial fight. It is a technical fight.
It is a political fight. Always fighting. But you have to go through this
and I have been extremely lucky to have a partner like Red Bull. But it was
always clear when Red Bull came in that he is prepared to run two teams as
long as he can work in synergies and run two teams out of one technology
centre. From 2010 this is going to difficult, a couple of people are unhappy
about that, and he says ‘I am not going to be prepared to build and compete
with two teams.’ I fully respect what he is doing or what he is thinking or
what he needs to do. And for me the most important thing in his statement
was to say that if I sell my part I am just going to sell it if I have
somebody the same or better than myself, so that the team’s future is
secure. Until this moment I cannot say what my position is because I have to
see it is the right future. Can we set goals and can we reach goals because
the last thing I want is to just be in F1 and running at the back around the
circuit. But on the other side if this happens I am totally happy to fight
with the team and to fight through and to look forward to good times.
Q: Is there any chance that this ruling that you have to make your own car
will change?
GB: I don’t know.
Q: Perhaps Martin and Mario, you can throw some light on that? Are you
against that ruling?
Martin WHITMARSH: I think philosophically F1 should be about Constructors
who design their own cars, but I think it is well-publicised that we take a
very pragmatic view. When it looked a year ago as though you could have a
customer car in F1 we worked very strongly with Prodrive. We checked back
with the FIA before we embarked on that programme. Opinions changed during
the course of the year otherwise possibly we would be here supporting a
customer team ourselves, so we can’t be too hypocritical about that. The
reality is we need to have a strong grid in F1. We need independent teams
like Gerhard’s to survive and I think it is up to the bigger teams and to
the automotive manufacturers and the FIA to work together to make sure that
we have got a sport that can keep that many teams in it.
Q: Mario?
Mario THEISSEN: We were right away of the view last year that it would not
be a good thing to have two classes of teams on the grid. Teams who go for
victory and other teams who just support their number one team, so we are
happy about the situation as it is now. Certainly, we support what Martin
just said. We need the independent teams on the grid and we have to find a
solution for them to be able to compete and to be in F1.
Q: Can I stay with you Mario. A tremendous performance in Australia. Second
in qualifying and second in the race. Did you expect to be the main
challenger of whoever the top team was going to be?
MT: Honestly not. I was very confident that we would stay ahead of the teams
we had beaten last year. I hoped that we were closer to the top two teams
last year and that happened. On top of that, Ferrari didn’t live up to their
standard performance, so this helped us to get onto the podium. But that can
change. It can change here already. But still I am very happy about the
performance we have shown. In qualifying we saw that we are certainly closer
to the front than we expected to be and that shows that the team has done a
very strong job in the past six to eight weeks since the launch of the car.
We have improved it dramatically, so this is certainly a good prospect for
the season.
Q: One thing we saw in Australia was two teams – Ferrari and McLaren in
particular - so confident of getting through Q1 and Q2 that they
concentrated on Q3 and the race. Is that something that you might consider
from now on and how much of an advantage is it?
MT: I think that is what we did as well. Through the entire Friday and the
Saturday morning we spent the whole time on race preparation, just the final
run in P3 we looked at qualifying performance. Other than that we were fully
focussed on race performance.
Q: One final question. A lot of people are already working on 2009. Perhaps
you can tell us how advanced you are and what it means to you to have the
KERS system which is going to be coming into force.
MT: It is mainly two areas everybody is working on. Of course the new aero
package which is totally different to what we are racing today. And then
KERS where there is an even bigger question mark because it is new
technology which we will use only nine months from now. It is technology
which is not available yet which goes way beyond what hybrid road cars are
using today, so I am really excited about this project because I am sure we
will leap-frog current technology. We will provide a step change for future
road car technology and this is a position we wanted to be in for years and
it really enhances what we do in F1.
Q: So you have a team working on that already?
MT: Sure. Everybody has. We are really focussed on that.
Q: Martin. Who did you expect to be your rivals in Australia and did it turn
out slightly differently?
Martin WHITMARSH: Of course, Ferrari showed a strong pace all through the
winter and we expected them to be the rivals. I think as Mario said they
didn’t perform to their game which was fortunate maybe for all us. They are
still a strong team and we know they are going to be tough to beat during
the remainder of this season. But in reality it was perhaps a slightly more
comfortable victory for us than we had expected. We were able to cover as
much as we could in the safety cars. We did stop Lewis (Hamilton) early on
both occasions. We got Heikki (Kovalainen) in early on the first occasion
but not quite early enough on the second occasion. We were comfortably in
control. But we are under no illusion and I think it has been clear here
today that Ferrari are very strong and for the time being at least they are
going to be our major competitors or we theirs. But we don’t take for
granted that Mario and all the other teams are going to be improving and
they are going to be tough to consistently beat as the season progresses.
Q: What about Heikki, he seems to have perhaps exceeded expectations?
MW: Heikki’s just done a fantastic job, again, a very solid day today.
Coming into the McLaren team, I think he had a season last year which was
very difficult, if you think of Australia 2007. As he came out of that, I
think progressively during the course of what was a difficult year, he
rebuilt his self-belief and his confidence and his pride. Coming into
McLaren, alongside Lewis, was huge pressure. He really has done a fantastic
job, and frankly, if it wasn’t for the safety car (in Australia), he would
have been a very very strong second place. Here, again, he has done a very
solid job today. We’re absolutely delighted with Heikki, we wouldn’t have
brought him into the team unless we believed he had the potential,
obviously, but I think he’s proven to a lot of people that he can win races
and I’m sure he will during the course of this year.
Q: You don’t fear the same problems as you had last year? How different is
his approach?
MW: Within the team at the moment there’s a fantastic atmosphere and I think
everyone here has some experience of Heikki who’s a very straightforward
individual. He’s a very enthusiastic and open individual and the team spirit
is great. When he starts to become even more competitive, I think that team
spirit will see us through, but one never knows. We’ve been proven wrong in
the past but I hope that on this occasion we’re going to have a very strong
season with both of our drivers.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Mike Doodson) This is for Martin: I’m intrigued by your references as to
what happened between you and the FIA over the second cars, the
supplementary team, because as long as I’ve been in Formula One, we’ve been
under the impression that the rules stated very clearly that Formula One
teams were required to build their own cars; it was a fundamental rule of
Formula One. You said that you investigated with the FIA, the FIA informed
you that it would be OK to go with a customer team. David Richards went and
put together a pretty good package we understand, and then somebody changed
his mind. I wonder if you consulted your lawyers and maybe you or David
Richards might be up for a little compensation?
MW: I think historically the issue that there has to be constructors was
defined within the Concorde Agreement and of course the Concorde Agreement
was coming to an end at the end of last year and that’s why there was a
difference of opinion. There were some teams that believed that the
conditions of Concorde continue in 2008 and beyond and some that didn’t. We
sought clarification. I think we did it in a very open manner with
everybody. We explained that philosophically we had concerns about the
second tier teams in Formula One, but pragmatically we saw there was an
opportunity to help develop teams that would be successful and teams that
would reinforce the grid and that’s why we went down that path. I think
ultimately different opinions prevailed and we’ve accepted that and I think
we’ve got to move on. I think often in Formula One you can easily become
embroiled in all sorts of different views and I think one of the lessons of
last year for McLaren in particular was you’ve got to move on from all these
things and we’re competing, happy to compete in Formula One as it is today.
From time to time various people have different views as to how Formula One
should develop and maybe it has to change in direction. Maybe customer teams
will be accepted in. I think it’s the discussion that Formula One has to
have.
Q: (Mike Doodson) Who changed his mind and why?
MW: I think it was a question of interpretation. The current Concorde
Agreement, as far as we were concerned, I think as far as the FIA were
concerned, was expiring at the end of the year. Concorde had the provisions
that you referred to but there were others who argue, and I think argued
successfully, that the Concorde Agreement provisions should continue because
they’d signed various agreements. You’ve got to remember various teams had
signed various different agreements with the FIA and with FOM, and various
people took interpretations as to how we should go forward. It was our view
that if there was a possibility to supply a second team, we would do so, but
if people eventually told us it wasn’t, then we’d accept that as well.
Q: (Dan Knutson – National Speed Sport News) Gerhard, it’s only his second
race weekend but what are your impressions of Bourdais so far?
GB: Well, until now he did a good job, nothing to say. He’d been a bit
unlucky already in Australia where he had a problem in one session on his
car, where he lost important time, and here today he lost the full second
session, due to a mistake made by us, so for him that’s really difficult
because he doesn’t know the circuits, he needs mileage, he needs to run
around, but in Australia he was quite good with the situation. He’d been
quite good in qualifying, he’d then been unlucky with the yellow flag and
the sector times and until this moment he had been on the level of Sebastian
Vettel. And then he did a great race, as you saw, so I think overall, good
performance but I think we need to give him half a year to settle into
Formula One, to start to know the circuits well, to start to know how to
work with the people, so I’m sure he’s going to have a lot of ups and downs
but I think he has a good potential.
Q: (Dan Knutson – National Speed Sport News) A question for all three of
you: do you think we should change the safety car rules? We have a situation
now that if the pit lane is not open, a guy running out of fuel gets a
penalty for basically doing nothing wrong.
MW: I think we can all complain, certainly we can after last weekend, about
the safety car rules, but I think the onus is on us to come up with
something better and the fact was that before the pit lane was closed,
drivers did race back in dangerous conditions and we all thought it was a
good part of the sport when in reality it was dangerous. So I can understand
Charlie’s (Whiting) viewpoint and what we have at the moment certainly
didn’t work for us at the last Grand Prix and I think that’s unfortunate,
where you can lose – as Heikki did – second place for an error of somebody
else during that event. But I think we’ve got to come up with something
better and I think the FIA’s open to that, but it’s coming up with something
that in fact doesn’t make the safety car the lottery that it is, although
clearly some people would argue that’s good for the sport. But I think it
shouldn’t be quite that much of a lottery, but it has to be safe and we’ve
got to come up with something that’s better.
MT: Well, as far as I know, nobody’s really happy with the situation as it
is now. There are discussions between Charlie and the team managers and I
think they will have further discussions. Let’s see what the outcome is.
GB: So far, no complaints but… It worked well! (Laughter) But anyway, I
think the FIA and Charlie - or whenever you experienced situations in the
race where maybe it’s not fair or maybe it’s not right, Charlie or the FIA
look into it anyway and the team managers also, and they sit together and
they change it in the right way for the sport. I think the whole process is
going on and they’re going to do the right thing.
Q: (Bob McKenzie – The Daily Express) Gerhard, is there any chance that you
might buy out and run it (Scuderia Toro Rosso) as Berger? Wouldn’t you like
to see a team out there with your name on it?
GB: There’s a small… a very small problem: where’s the money to do it?
(Laughter) No, again, I’m very very happy to have a partner like Red Bull.
It’s just a perfect situation, you know? I don’t think it’s a question of
naming the team this way or that way. For me it’s just important to have the
resources and the possibility to do something well in the sport and all the
rest, OK, it’s not a big deal. So, answering your question, no, I think I
need a strong partner, whoever it is. I would prefer Red Bull remains it.
Q: (Mike Doodson) Martin, you’ve sort of opened a nest of ants when you
talked about the Concorde Agreement. Can you just enlighten us about the
rules under which Formula One is being run at the moment, as far as commerce
is concerned? Will there be a new Concorde Agreement? What arrangements have
you reached for the commercial running of the sport?
MW: I think as people know, (there is) a range of arrangements between teams
and FOM. I’m sure they will converge and they will be in agreement at some
stage during this year. It isn’t ideal, none of us would be here racing
unless we were happy with the terms and let’s hope they get a little more
clarified and unified as the year goes on, which I’m sure they will.
MT: Well, I know Bernie’s people are working with people of the teams in
order to put something together and I am confident we will have something
before the end of the season.
GB: Same. |