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TEAM PRINCIPALS: Eric
BOULLIER (Renault), Norbert HAUG (Mercedes), Christian HORNER (Red Bull),
Martin WHITMARSH (McLaren)
Q: A question to you all. What lessons were learnt after Turkey two weeks
ago? Can drivers' problems be expected? Are they the sort of things that are
regularly going to happen? Are there any ways of avoiding them? Eric, you
are a newcomer to this would you like to start?
Eric BOULLIER: I think you should better start in the front row as they have
a lot to say I guess about the drivers. I think for us it was pretty good.
We had a good race from both drivers and nothing very much to say. We had
the best weekend actually we have had this season in terms of pace.
Q: In terms of driver management though from what you saw in other teams was
there something you might have changed?
EB: I think they managed the situation quite well. I think even if it was a
very tricky one.
Q: Norbert, you were quoted as saying that it was a bit of a ‘disaster’.
What are your feelings about it?
Norbert HAUG: I think things like that can really happen. I know that from
the past, probably not quite to that extent, but a big drama was made about
it, but the reality was it was a bit of a misunderstanding. It can happen to
us, that’s the reality. But of course if you are fighting for first and
second place this is not what you want, probably not so problematic if you
are seventh or eighth but first and second of course. Our McLaren Mercedes
friends gave it a go afterwards, so it was really thrilling. But I can
understand the situation at the top. At that speed it happens very quickly.
Martin WHITMARSH: I don’t think we learnt anything new from it. If you go
back, and the historians are better than me, I think Indianapolis 2005
Norbert and I were working together and our drivers conspired to take each
other out at the first corner. It can happen. We have got competitive racing
drivers in most of the teams that are represented here. They want to go out
there and race. Inevitably there are occasions when perhaps there is a
conflict of interest between the driver’s personal ambitions and the intent
of the team and things will happen on a race track which afterwards in the
cool light of day you wish hadn’t. But they happen. They are part of motor
racing and part perhaps of the rich entertainment we are here to provide.
Christian HORNER: Sorry, what was the question? I think Istanbul, there has
been so much said about that event during the last couple of weeks. If you
look at the race I think it was actually a very positive race for Formula
One to have four cars running line astern for pretty much 40 laps with a
very tight competition between two teams. It was a great shame that the
incident happened, but it happened. You have got two guys tied on points in
the World Championship, fighting for the lead in a grand prix and as
team-mates, and you know ‘is it wrong to let the drivers race each other?’ I
don’t think it is. That’s what Formula One is about. We allowed the drivers
to race each other and unfortunately an incident happened. You can always
learn. I am sure the drivers have learnt, the team has learnt and as
individuals we all learn from every grand prix weekend. The incident
happened, it has been dealt with, it has been discussed and moved on. We
have got two excellent drivers. They will be working with each other for
another 18 months and they complement each other very well. We have achieved
in the last, just over 12 months... we have had six one-two finishes with
them. They have raced each other on numerous occasions wheel to wheel
without any issue as we have seen on numerous occasions this year. I think
answering your question; yes, lessons can always been learnt and are the
guys going to race each other this weekend? If they qualify close to each
other as they inevitably will do, then yes, they will, but hopefully they
won’t find themselves in the situation they were in in Istanbul.
Q: To make it a little bit more specific for Martin and Christian. Is there
anything you have changed since Turkey in terms of communication? As to some
extent that was the problem with the McLaren team. Is there anything
specific you have changed?
CH: Nothing specific. We just pointed out who the team-mate is. Things were
discussed after the event in the coolness of an environment away from the
race track. Both drivers regret that the incident happened, but most of all
from a team point of view as we were set for an excellent victory having got
into a dominant position ahead of the two McLarens. It was a great shame to
lose a grand prix and a one-two finish in that manner. But lessons have been
learnt and we have moved on.
MW: I think good clear accurate information is the right way to go. There
were questions during that race. Someone responded quickly and intuitively.
They made an error in doing that. I am sure that individual has learnt. I am
sure we as a team have learnt. We will endeavour to get it right if we are
asked for information next time.
Q: So in a way no specific instructions to that person that they must avoid
doing this in the future?
MW: I think that particular individual is a very experienced person. He was
asked for some information. I think he was trying to cause both cars to take
it easy as all of the competitive cars in that race have an issue
potentially of managing fuel, managing brakes, managing engines, managing
tyres, and at that particular point we weren’t looking for our drivers to
put at risk the prospects of finishing by pushing on the cars anymore than
they had to.
Q: Norbert, are Mercedes at the moment living up to your expectations? Does
the team need a big leap forward? Has the leap forward come here?
NH: We are definitely not where we want to be. That is no secret. We are
aware of the situation. I think we had quite a good qualifying result in the
last race, otherwise Michael (Schumacher) would have been fourth and Nico
(Rosberg) would have been fifth because the cars behind up to 10th place or
whatever had a comparable speed. We are working on it and we know that we
have to improve. This will take some time and I think we could have done a
very good job already in Monaco. The car was competitive there. It didn’t
look too bad today, so let’s wait and see but we are fully motivated. We
brought our people down to the right number for next year already. This is
certainly not an excuse, it’s just an explanation. We are still learning. I
think I am positive; we are positive. But we have to realise that we have
very tough competitors around us and our Renault friends are catching up. I
have to say they are doing an excellent job but probably the team looks like
being Renault more than ever before. They are strong, have good drivers. We
know how strong McLaren Mercedes is, Red Bull, Ferrari. It is not easy and
the time will come. I answered that question very often in the past together
with Martin, when will you be competitive again? We never can say an exact
date, that’s for sure, but we will be competitive and we are working on it.
Q: So does it need a big leap forward? Is that big leap forward planned or
is it just going to be little by little?
NH: Well, you know you need to be realistic and have a kind of worst case
scenario. I could say we were five-and-half-tenths slower than the Red Bulls
in the last race but I think it could have been the case that Sebastian
Vettel would have been even quicker in qualifying and it would have been
seven or eight tenths. That is the realistic gap. We did not post very good
lap times at the beginning of the race. When the fuel came down at the very
end I think it looked much better. Of course not everybody was pushing but I
think Mark (Webber) for example pushed as much as he could at that stage, so
towards the end with more grip and less fuel we did comparable lap times.
But we are not where we want to be and if I could organise it for tomorrow I
would like to have one-and-half seconds per lap but this takes time.
Q: Eric, is Renault beyond its expectations at the moment?
EB: Very frankly, we are in the expectation, maybe a little bit better. We
are very happy to give some tough times to Mercedes. We need to work still a
lot to give some tough times to McLaren or Red Bull but it is good to fight
with Ferrari and Mercedes and we are happy with what is going on.
Q: You have got two very tough drivers. What do you think of the respective
characters of your two drivers?
EB: I think we have two different scenarios. Robert (Kubica) is experienced
enough and is pushing hard. He just needs to get a better car maybe to do
better qualifying. In the case of Vitaly (Petrov) he still needs to learn,
especially like this weekend. He has never raced here, so he has to learn
the tracks and still needs to learn Formula One but Istanbul was a good
example that with a little bit of experience he is getting the pace and he
is getting a good race pace as well and he is able to keep the rhythm.
Q: A question to all of you. Felipe Massa and Mark Webber have both signed.
Felipe until 2012 and Mark until 2011. What does that do to the driver
market looking forward to next year?
EB: Definitely with the recent rumours about the link between Ferrari and
Robert it is now closing all the rumours and I think it will not affect very
much the driver market and we can now sit down and discuss properly with
Robert his future with us.
NH: I think it is a perfect situation. Very rarely have we had such an
intense fight. It was always a big fight, but I think the line-up is great
and I think the first five teams probably will have the same driver line-up
next year and that’s a perfect fit. That’s good for Formula One and I think
we will see some very good races. Still this year, probably already on
Sunday.
MW: Nothing to add really. Clearly the driver market is more stable than it
normally is. The rumours are only starting to gather pace this time of year,
so I think we have got other things to concentrate on. As Norbert said, I
think we have got four world champions in top teams. We have got really
exciting racing. The last six races have been really gripping and hopefully
that will carry on for the rest of this year and into next season.
Q: Christian, obviously you have tied up your two.
CH: Yes. There is no effect at all for us as we have retained exactly the
same pairing. It was a very straightforward decision to come to extend the
agreement with Mark which was mutually extended on an annual basis. Mark is
very keen that at this stage of his career he also takes things one year at
a time. He has no aspirations to hang around Formula One past his sell by
date, so we have got two very strong drivers that we are delighted to be
working again with in 2011. I think most of the seats are fairly fixed going
forwards, so I don’t think there is going to be in the front half of the
grid too much movement.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Gaetan Vigneron – RTBF) Question to all of you regarding the decision
for tyres for next year. Jean Todt has said that it’s a decision of the FIA
and of Bernie Ecclestone. What’s your opinion about that? It seems to be
quite urgent, so when could we have a final decision?
MW: I think what Jean’s reflecting is that current regulations require the
FIA to go out to tender and clearly that is something we all have a vested
interest in concluding. I think teams, the FIA, the commercial rights holder
have been working hard to reach a conclusion and I’m sure they will be able
to shortly.
CH: I think the only thing to add is that the sole supplier situation that
we have in Formula One has enabled independent teams such as ourselves to be
competitive with automotive-owned teams and larger organisations. I think
the most fundamental thing going forward is that we have equality of tyre
supply. In the situation that we have at the moment, we have a good tyre
supplier who unfortunately won’t be with us in 2011. I think the teams are
clear where they want to go with the options that are on the table and
hopefully the FIA together with Bernie Ecclestone can come to a similar
conclusion.
MW: I think it’s urgent for whoever comes in. They need to get the tyres
designed, developed and work out the logistics of manufacturing the number
of tyres required and servicing Formula One next year and for the teams, we
need it very urgently, so that we can design next year’s car, because
clearly the tyre characteristics are a fundament starting point for the
layout of next year’s car. So it’s pretty urgent really, for the tyre
companies and for the teams.
Q: (MC) And are you going to want to test those tyres before the end of this
season?
MW: I think the two companies that have been expressing an interest have got
views on how they would test, whether they would test with teams or by other
means but again, the quicker and earlier we can test and validate the design
characteristics have been met and the things are safe the better. It’s going
to be difficult. All of the teams, over the last couple of years, have now
stood down their test teams, so none of us, frankly, are equipped to go out
there testing and tyre testing as we did before. There have been a lot of
initiatives in Formula One to reduce costs and I think we’ve got to be
careful we don’t creep back in the wrong direction in dealing with this
change, but I’m sure it’s something that together we will work through
satisfactorily.
Q: (Daniel Bastien – FM 103.3) Parallel to the tyre question there’s also
the issue of KERS for next year and beyond. Where’s that now, is it multiple
choice, single supplier?
MW: KERS is permissible under the regulations and of course, during the
economic crisis there was an agreement amongst the teams not to run KERS
this year. We were a team which benefitted greatly from a great and
competitive KERS system last year. Certainly we haven’t been at the
forefront of campaigning for its re-introduction but I think it would seem
that there is sufficient interest from a number of the teams to be running
KERS again, so it now seems likely that a proportion – I don’t know if all
of them – but a good number of teams will run KERS next year.
EB: We are definitely a very strong supporter of KERS. I think we have said
already many, many times that we would like KERS back. We have different
technology, let’s say, to my neighbour Mercedes and this is maybe where we
have some discussions to find a compromise but nothing else, just
discussions. We hope that KERS will be back.
NH: Yeah, frankly we are very well equipped if KERS is needed. We had the
historic first victory, as Martin pointed out, last year, just a little bit
less than a year ago, with Lewis Hamilton in the Hungarian Grand Prix. We
won two races with KERS last year, KERS helped us in Hungary. Without KERS,
I think it would have been very difficult to overtake Mark Webber at that
stage. If we need KERS we are prepared. We need to be aware that this will
cost money for all the teams. Should only some teams run KERS and have a
benefit, then it’s probably difficult but I think we all need to sit
together and make the right decision, but Mercedes Benz is a pioneer, if you
like to express it like that, in hybrid. In principal, we have a similar
system in our Mercedes S-class which is a very successful car, interestingly
very successful in China, this hybrid car. So it suits us basically; our
point was just that we have to be aware that it costs money and we have to
be aware that the new engine formula which is planned for 2013 will cost
money and we should define limits, because Mercedes needs limits and money
spending and I think Renault, whoever, I don’t think the other gentlemen
here will see it differently. I don’t think anybody wants to spend more
money than is necessary.
Q: (MC) Christian, would Red Bull develop their own or would they go with
Renault’s?
CH: First of all, KERS is a very interesting technology, it’s something that
Formula One needs to be responsible and look at. I think the problem that we
have is that with the current regulations we find ourselves a little bit in
no-man’s land concerning the performance advantage of running KERS,
integrating it into the car, the weight, the system. Is it just going to be
a benefit for the first 500 meters of the race, as we saw so often last
year? Is it actually going to add anything to the spectacle, the sporting
spectacle of racing? Unfortunately, with the current regulation it’s
arguable as to whether it will. I think each team is going to have to make a
decision, whether they optimise their car with a KERS system or without a
KERS system and I think it is very, very tight as to whether you would or
wouldn’t run a system. Then there’s obviously a cost element on top of that.
It’s an interesting question that we have to make decisions on in the
relatively near future, because the architecture of next year’s car… one has
to decide fairly shortly, are you going to incorporate a KERS? You’ve also
got to think about the size of your drivers, the weight limit has been
increased to accommodate that to a degree. Weight distribution is affected
by running KERS, there’s a knock-on effect – adapting that system into your
car is quite significant and of course there are gains and losses. You’ve
just got to weigh up: does the system earn its place as a performance
differentiator on your car?
Q: (Ted Kravitz – BBC) Much of what was key to the Turkish Grand Prix were
radio transmissions, especially between the McLaren drivers and the Red Bull
drivers and the fact that they were delayed or never broadcast just added to
the confusion of the controversy that’s rumbled on into this week. Would it
not help people’s understanding of the race – and Martin, you spoke about
the entertainment that you’re here to provide – if those transmissions were
made open and accessible to broadcasters, not just to the FIA and FOM?
MW: Well, the radio transmissions are made available by all the teams to the
commercial rights holder at all times. They then have the rights to use that
in any way that they choose to. I guess the issue is how much can you
process and refine and give to the outside broadcasters. That’s probably a
discussion you need to have with FOM, not with us.
CH: From our point of view, all radio transmissions should be available and
open. Certainly all our transmissions seem to be played, there was nothing
that wasn’t played, because there was no communication given other than
standard communications about managing fuel mixtures etc during the course
of the race. But I think it’s something that Formula One has opened up much
more in recent years. We never used to hear Ferrari transmissions, we never
used to hear McLaren transmissions. We do hear that now and I think that
adds to the spectacle, it adds to the show that is Formula One.
Q: (Ed Straw – Autosport) Christian and Martin, there’s a ban on team orders
in Formula One that was brought in after Austria to stop things like that
farcical race finish with drivers switching around. Is there an argument for
maybe re-evaluating the ban on team orders, both to allow people in your
position to manage what your drivers are doing on the circuit, and also to
prevent conspiracy theories rightly or wrongly being generated from what we
do hear of radio transmissions?
CH: I think team orders are wrong. I think we’ve got two guys who we back
equally and it’s down to what they do on the track. You employ professional
drivers and we shouldn’t dictate how they drive the car. I think it would be
wrong to deny the public from what a Grand Prix should be about which is man
and machine competing with each other, and that’s a philosophy which we’ve
always had and so I think it would be wrong to reintroduce the ability to
dictate that one car should absolutely win from the first corner onwards.
MW: I think we’re happy with the regulations as they are. We haven’t been
operating team orders and that’s been something in McLaren for many, many
years. I know some teams have but I guess historically Formula One teams
could run as a team. I don’t mind if other teams want to do something and
that’s up to them, but within our team, we’ve tried to treat all of our
drivers with respect. We try to treat them as fairly as we can at all times
in preparing for a race and throughout a race. Having said that, you’ll
never eliminate conspiracy theories; there will be a conspiracy theory on
something else. I think it’s fine as it is.
Q: (Daniel Bastien – FM 103.3) What do you think of Jean Todt’s suggestion
that drivers should be sanctioned in the championship for behaving badly on
public roads?
CH: I completely agree with it. I thought that used to be the case anyway.
It certainly used to be the case that you had to have a valid road licence
to hold a competition licence. The drivers are ambassadors for driving
safely on the road. Certainly, I don’t think we would have any problem if
that was reinstated.
MW: Yes, I agree with that, but we wouldn’t want to extend it to team
members!
NH: Yes, it’s perfectly OK.
EB: Yes, definitely the drivers are ambassadors for safety and I don’t know
how you can handle penalising them on track when they are doing something
bad on the road. But they definitely need to behave because they have
ambassador status. |