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TEAM REPRESENTATIVES
Mattia BINOTTO (Ferrari), Toto WOLFF (Mercedes), Guenther STEINER (Haas)
Q: Guenther, we’ll come to you first. Talk to us about progress this weekend
first, because the last three races have been tough for the team. Do you
feel you're making more progress here?
Guenther STEINER: That will be a short answer, because we didn't make any
yesterday. So, I think, between FP1 looked pretty good and FP2, We weren't
where we wanted to be. So, the guys worked overnight, obviously, to try to
get back where we want to be. But I'm not sure. So, we have to wait for FP3.
Q: But what about these last three races? What have been the issues with the
car?
GS: I don't remember them all. Because we had so many. I mean, honestly,
actually, I cannot… I don't want to say them all here. We always… I think
the car was… we made good progress in Spain, with the car, with the set-up,
and the car was competitive. But we never could get any points, you know?
Because we made mistakes, either in qualifying or the race. So, it was quite
disappointing and frustrating, the last races. But I think the car was, in
the last races, good to get into the points but we didn't materialise any of
them. So, hopefully, we can get the car back where we want to have it here,
and try to get some points because now, a few races, we didn't get any, and,
as I said, it's getting frustrating for everybody. But we know we've got a
good car and we just need to keep our heads up and keep on working hard on
it.
Q: It's getting frustrating, yes – but do you feel you've slipped back
relative to your midfield rivals?
GS: I think the midfield this year, there is never… it is not as clear as it
was maybe the years before, depending on which race you are, there is always
another car on top of the midfield, you know? So, sometimes you're better,
sometimes you're worse because it's so close together. So, I cannot really
answer if we slipped back I don't think so. Because in some of the races
like Barcelona, we weren’t bad, you know? Also Miami. So difficult to say.
But it's difficult to say in general, because there is always a change in
the midfield, who is good and who is bad depending on the racetrack.
Q: And what about upgrades? What can you tell us?
GS: We will bring some upgrades. We are still working on some of the things
where we want to bring a good package, not just a little bit and hopefully,
for answer, the race after, we bring something.
Q: And what about Mick Schumacher? He's now had two big crashes this season.
How have they impacted his confidence and your budget?
GS: I mean, his confidence obviously, I spoke with him in the last week, for
sure it's a little bit… he needs to come back, to gain that confidence back
somehow, but it's difficult, you know? But he will make it. Budget-wise,
obviously, it's a big hit. But it's not only the budget, it's also the
production of the parts. We cannot keep up with it. You’ve got one set or
two sets of moulds, and you cannot make more, and in a moment we go through
parts, there is no tomorrow, because the races are so close together, to
each other. So, it's very difficult to keep up and obviously cost a lot of
money as well.
Q: Looking at his Monaco crash, can you put a number on that for us, what it
costs?
GS: No, we haven't gone through it, but it's never cheap when a car breaks
in two.
Q: Toto, let's talk about this weekend. So far it doesn't look to have been
a straightforward one for Mercedes. How's progress?
Toto WOLFF: It’s like Guenther says, you're a bit better on one racetrack,
and worse on the other one. I think where we are is a realistic assessment:
we're third on the road. Sometimes we are a bit closer to the Ferrari and
Red Bulls, sometimes we fall a little back and sometimes we are challenged
by the good cars of the midfield. And this is just how it is at the moment
and we need to work ourselves out of it. It's science, physics and not
mystics. And that can sometimes take time.
Q: Is there a sense of frustration starting to build that you haven't been
able to maintain that Barcelona form?
TW: I think it is a normal consequence if you have been successful over many
years, that suddenly you find yourself in such a dip, and you're doing your
normal work that has been successful in the past but it just doesn't bring
the results, and it's clear that sometimes a feeling of frustration keeps
creeping in. But we are very honest about it. There's a lot to look forward
for, we know that there is inherent performance in the car. We just haven't
been able to unlock it properly.
Q: What are the issues here, specifically in Baku?
TW: We are facing the same issues when the car is not quick, and that is we
have a porpoising – but others like Ferrari has it too here, even a bit
worse. But at different pieces of the track, we are bottoming-out badly,
which affects our aerodynamic, and affects our straight-line speed greatly.
And as a consequence, the ride is not very good. And this can cost several
tenths, and yesterday we were losing a second on all straights to Ferrari
and Red Bull.
Q: Can we talk driver contracts now? Sergio Pérez has just signed with Red
Bull Racing until the end of 2024. And given that Lewis’ contract only goes
until the end of ’23, and you said last time that you didn't want to leave
it as late as you did with him, then, is his future firmly on your radar
now?
TW: Are we starting talking 2024 contracts? June 2022? No, we are in a happy
place with Lewis and there is no doubt that we are embarking the season and
the next one in a good place. But it's too early to discuss 2024. But having
said that, I couldn't wish for a better driver pairing.
Q: One final one for me. In other news, Lewis is producing a film about
Formula 1. Has he asked you to star in it?
TW: Well, we've discussed the kind of narrative and how that's all going to
come together. And certainly there's… if it comes, it's going to be a great
movie.
Q: And I'm sure he's told you that Brad Pitt is playing you. Is that right?
TW: I don't think I can say too much. But if it were like this, I think
that's cool.
Q: Mattia, let's start by talking about this porpoising, because Toto just
said that you have it perhaps worse than Mercedes at this racetrack? Is that
how you see it?
Mattia BINOTTO: We got it. I think yesterday, we were certainly bouncing and
bottoming. Is it worse to Mercedes? I don't know, honestly, I have not had a
look to how bad it was on their car. I think that is the consequence of the
fact that we are going soft, softer and softer, lower and lower. And it's
great to see that the car maybe can afford it without losing too much
performance, both on the straight, and in the corners. Now, it's always a
compromise. I think that the recent package introducing Spain is a step
forward compared to the past, in terms of bouncing phenomenon and
behaviours. We are looking as well in the future for better improvements.
And today we are bouncing but I don't think it's a limitation to our
performance.
Q: Can we throw it back to Monaco next, obviously a disappointing race for
you guys. What lessons did you learn there?
MB: Monaco. First, I think that the car has been, once again, competitive,
it showed that on different type of circuits and layouts, the car can prove
to be to be fast. And I think we are again on the first line in Quali, which
was great. I think that is where we need to start from. So, after seven
races, still our car is showing and proving to be competitive. And then
obviously, in the race, I think it has been a succession of quite difficult
situations to be managed on the pit-wall, in terms of strategy. Finally, I
think we didn't get the best out of it. And not finishing here with a
victory. But I think that’s showing that sometimes between targets and
ambitions, it can still be a, let me say, a gap. And as a team, we are
always trying to have lessons learned from that, try to build our
experience, try to build our improvements, our tools to make sure that we
can do better in the future. So, I think what happened overall, yes,
certainly, there should have been an unlucky mistake at some stage because
not finishing first when you are one-two, something was not great. But I
don't think that the team overall made bad decisions. I think that the
decision we took was based on the numbers we had at the time, which probably
were not accurate enough to make the right judgement and finally we didn't
finish where we would have. I think all decision we made in Monaco was try
to finish one and two and not only for a single victory, which may be was
too ambitious, but I think if a team is always looking for the best, it's at
least the right attitude.
Q: Mattia, can I just pick you up on something that you said. You said the
numbers weren't correct? Was that the crux of the problem, is that you went
into the race with the wrong numbers?
MB: I don't think that we went into the race with the wrong numbers. When on
the first pit from Extreme to Intermediates, when Sergio Pérez, which was
certainly the earliest he could have stopped without being too much in
traffic, he just stopped behind Norris. It would not have been the case for
us to stop earlier; we would have been certainly in traffic. But simply
waiting for them, Charles got an 11-second advantage on Sergio, which is a
big number; Carlos almost four seconds, and normally you know that, when you
got such a gap and such an advantage, you can simply wait for your
competitors to make the first move, and then try to react. And, as I said,
Checo went out on Intermediate, certainly was fast, he was stuck behind
Norris on the first out-lap. And then Norris came in. And at that time,
Charles got almost 10 seconds advantage and in a lap, we simply went off,
the advantage went off and things that no-one could have imagined – and it's
not a matter of going to the race with no numbers – no-one would have
imagined that 10 seconds difference between performance between those two
tyres at that stage of the race. We never drove on Wet tyres in Monaco on
18-inches before the time. So, you do not start collecting, having data from
the past. Lewis was on Intermediate at that time. I think he was gaining on
us four seconds per lap, but not 10. So, I think it took us on surprise. So,
that's why I'm saying that the team. I think covering Checo, was not a wrong
intention but that lap has been very significant in terms of how it turned
out.
Q: Sorry to linger on Monaco, just one final question for me about it. It's
just Charles, how has he dealt with the disappointment of the last two
races? Because Barcelona as well, another victory potentially going missing.
MB: I think his disappointment is our disappointment as well. I think he was
certainly disappointed as we were, and when you need to turn that into
positive, I think as a group, as a team, you try to look at what happened
and try to have lessons learned, and try really to look forward. I think
that, already, the day after, we slept on the race and we started having our
internal discussion, looking at all the numbers, try to review the race
decisions and why we decided that and that. I think it came out that it was
not an obvious call. And that's why I think we cannot blame the team – and
myself I think – for the decision we took at the time, but certainly
something to learn from it, to try to improve our tools furthermore, and
ready here for Baku. Try to at least fight again.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Matt Kew – Autosport) A question to Mattia. We saw the Ferrari sporting
the Miami-spec rear wing for second practice. And while I don't expect you
to divulge engine modes, were there further changes you made to get those
gains in the fast final sector, without losing out in the first half a lap?
MB: I think when you decide for a certain rear wing, you do it based on your
simulations – offline simulations – in terms of race preparations. We know
that coming here in Baku, the long straight is an important one, in terms of
lap time, and you cannot certainly lose too much time on the straight
itself. So, simulating, I think the rear wing we were running in FP2 was the
right choice for the weekend. We didn't apply and use it in FP1, simply
because we believe not only you've got a green track, drivers need to get
confident through the lap and it was more important for us to start as a
baseline on the rear wing that we knew, with some more downforce but at
least to get the baseline of the setup and then moving on a lower downforce.
I think that, after FP2, pretty happy with the way that the rear wing was at
least working, the very first time we used it this season. Again, matching
with the data we were expecting from simulations, it's where we are starting
from for the rest of the weekend.
Q: (Jon Noble – motorsport.com) To, all three of you, the drivers, one-third
of the way through the season seem a bit frustrated and weary of the
porpoising. That constant bouncing, constant frustrations with the set-up.
George Russell suggested yesterday it’s got to the point where F1 needs to
think seriously about: do we want these cars now for the next four years, to
endure this for a lot more time? Do we need to rethink the concept, or do
something? Do you think we stick with these current cars and the way they
continue to porpoise? Or do we need to rethink something to alleviate these
porpoising problems?
GS: I think it's a bit early to say we give up on what we have done here. We
have done just a few races with these cars. And you know, these engineers
are very good, and they will find a solution before we need to do something
dramatic. I think we need to wait a little bit longer. If we can fix it, I
call it, you know that everybody's in a good place, and otherwise, I think
there will be a time when we say: ‘how could we do this different?’ Or ‘if
we change the regulation, can we make it go away?’ But in the moment, I
think we need to stick with this regulation because I think, in general,
they are not working badly. So, we cannot just immediately do something
different. Maybe, as Toto said before, they've got a big issue with it and
maybe George is taking a little bit of a way out of it, you know? Toto would
never think about this, by the way…
TW: I think we've seen cars that don't have the issue. And then others who
have it have it worse, clearly. I can talk for our two drivers: they are
having issues and it goes to a point that even a physio can't fix it
sometimes. So, we need to see how that develops. And understand also why
it's much tougher in some cars than in others.
MB: Yeah, first, overall, if we judge the Formula 1, I don't think they are
the least comfortable cars to drive, in terms of formula motorsport. And I
think that it's a challenge for the drivers, no doubt. But still, I think
those cars are quite comfortable to drive. It's a challenge, a technical
challenge, I think we look at ourselves, we made already some progress, as
Guenther said, I think in the future, we can do more progress. So, certainly
too early to judge. I'm pretty sure we will find a solution, medium-long
term. And it's a challenge. As all the others. So, I think it's we need to
accept it. It's certainly something on which we need all to better
understand to improve, but happy to do that.
Q: (Claire Cottingham – Racefans) Question for all three, if possible. We
were speaking a bit yesterday to the drivers about the Race Directors and
the fact that we've got two and that they've been flip-flopping and things
like that. And the consistency. I just wondered your thoughts on the
consistency, if maybe there should be a third added or we should just have
one throughout the full season? Thank you.
MB: Certainly not an easy job. I think when you are there and you need to
sit and decide, it’s not an easy one – as the strategy one. These guys need
some more experience, it’s not something which you learn from the very first
race. If I look at the start of the season, certainly as Ferrari we cannot
be happy with that. I think often we have been disadvantaged by decisions,
but that's the way it is. We understand the difficulty. I think in order to
make them improve, we need to help them as well. I think it has to be a
collaborative, let me say, collaboration between the teams and the Race
Directors, to make sure they understand, they improve as fast as possible.
Because no doubt that so far in the season, sometimes they was no
consistency in decisions, I think we cannot deny that. As we cannot deny
it's not an easy job. So, it will take some time. We just need to hasten it
as much as possible.
TW: Yeah, like Mattia said, it's a difficult job because you're also in the
spotlight and certainly, Monaco, when you're thrown into this weather
condition, climate, and then suddenly you need to make decisions, that is
very, very difficult. And I think the more races will pass, the more
experience they will get, the more they will cope also with the pressure
that Formula 1 brings with it. But they are part of Formula 1, as are the
teams, as the teams make mistakes, and sometimes you really blame, because a
wheels not on the car, or you get the strategy wrong, so, in the same way
the Race Director is in the firing line. So, it's… I think the same for
everyone.
GS: Yeah, I agree with Mattia and Toto, what they said. And also, after last
year, the Abu Dhabi race, the Race Director is a lot more in the spotlight
than in the years before. So, everybody looks at them and every little
mistake, they are more criticised than before and that cannot be easy, but
we just have to give them a little bit of time and I think they will get
there. I think they came in, not having done, as a Race Director, Formula 1
before, they are doing a decent job.
Q: (Scott Mitchell – The Race) Mattia, just on engine reliability. You
changed a lot about the engine for this season. The first few races, the
reliability looked really good. There’s been a couple of problems in the
last couple of weekends: Monaco in particular, for the customer teams and it
seemed to be consistent with the MGU-K. Was there any common issue with that
part and has that component changed in specification at all with the
introduction of the second power unit, because I think the homologation for
ERS components was a bit later in the season than the combustion engine
which was pre-season?
MB: As first, reliability is always a challenge, especially for a power unit
and you are always trying to look for better performance, increasing
performance, but then to ensure the reliability it’s never certainly easy.
Our power unit department made, I think, an incredible job from last year to
this season in terms of improving the performance and certainly that somehow
has affected, or somehow has put at risk the reliability. As you said, I
think the start of this season has been great. We had some issues in the
last couple of races, a spin with Charles and in Monaco as well with our
customer teams. These are always concerns. I don’t think that we can simply
say these are easy ones to be fixed or these are ones somehow you fix in a
race only. So they are concerns but I think it’s, as they are concerns, I
know that our team is very strong as well in trying to ensure the
reliability for the next races, cope with it, try to make sure that in terms
of usage we are more protected and for the medium long term, try to address
it. The components are very similar in terms of electrical motors to the
ones of last year. We introduced an evolution by the end of last season,
increasing the voltage and certainly, let me say the overall experience
we’ve got so far on those electrical motors are reduced compared to what we
had before, so still somethings to learn, to improve, to address but it’s
not a short term concern as well.
Q: (Filip Cleeren – motorsport.com) To all three of you, it seems like the
discussion about potential salary cap for drivers has flared up in recent
weeks. Can I have your opinion on that and also is there a potential
knock-on effect for young drivers trying to find backers if their return on
investment is limited?
TW: Certainly, it has come up as a controversial topic. We can see that we
are facing a very difficult situation in Formula 1 overall. The sport is
booming and Formula 1 is earning more money and that trickles down to the
teams but we have a cost cap. We have $140m for a thousand people. With
inflation, we haven’t been able to even pay the inflation and I think the
talk about 30 or 40 million dollar salary allowance is inadequate when you
take that perspective. Now, clearly, the drivers will have an opinion on
that and maybe as a driver I would say the same thing but US American
leagues, that are the most successful in the world, have introduced salary
caps 15 years ago. It works pretty well over there and Formula 1 is looking
at it without an immediate solution to it, but I think, like all the other
sports in the world, we need to find a way of how we can act sustainably and
become independent from sovereign funds or state-owned teams and therefore
it is certainly clear that this is going to be one of the main areas because
you can’t simply have a salary bill in some of the top teams that is 30, 40,
50m when the rest of the team needs to be divided in $140m. But having said
that, they are tremendous superstars, they deserve to be among the top
earners in the sport. In terms of direct salaries they already are and then
we need to find a way of unlocking the endorsement… the capability of doing
endorsement deals which is two thirds if not more for US American sports
teams but certainly, direct salaries, Formula 1 drivers are paid the most.
MB: I think that Toto already covered most of the points and the overview is
shared and I think it’s right. Having said that, it’s a tricky one to be
addressed and I’m not sure there is a solution, honestly. It’s not only a
tricky one, I think it’s not even an urgent one. The salary cap for drivers
will affect only three, four maximum teams, not more than that and those
teams that will be affected are already in long-term agreements with their
drivers, so long that I think it’s again not something that we need to put
in place for next year. It will not be before maybe 2026. Having said that,
there is plenty of time to look at the points and understand the
sustainability that Toto was mentioning. We need to take our time, reflect
on it, not as an urgent matter.
Q: Mattia, the second part of the question about there being a knock-on
effect for young drivers seeking investors?
MB: It’s one of the points that needs to be discussed and looked at because
we need to promote young generations and in order to promote young
generations somehow the way it’s working today is having people that somehow
are investing on drivers for a return later on so yes, it may have a
knock-on effect. How to mitigate that in case we go for a salary cap I have
not the solution to this, that’s why I think it’s a tricky one, so while I
understand the point, while we understand the importance of it, I don’t
think that anyone today has got a solution. If there will be a solution,
again, I don’t know. We will take our time.
GS: I think there’s not a lot more to be added here. I think where we can
learn lessons from is American big league sports. There is a lot going on
there and we just need to see how it is done there and learn from it. We
don’t have to copy it but there is a lot being done and just looking at it
for mid- to long-term, how this can be resolved so this lack of parity
between the team budget and the drivers budget is not so big any more but
obviously you will have always the problem that who is going to invest in a
race car driver if he cannot make the money back. It’s very difficult to
sort.
TW: By the way, one more point. We shouldn’t be including the top earners in
the team. I think in order to make it sustainable, everyone should be
covered by the cost cap and it’s only the drivers but it’s also the team
principals and the senior management.
Q: (Adam Cooper – motorsport.com) Mattia and Toto, any thoughts on the
departure of Peter Bayer and the job he’s one over the last few years. He’s
obviously been a very important link between you and the FIA and also
thoughts on his interim replacement, and especially Mattia, any concerns
that someone with close links to another team is now in that job, even if it
is temporary?
TW: Yeah, we worked with Peter Bayer for quite some time and he was a
rational guy. I personally enjoyed having him as a sparring partner but the
FIA is changing its structure and its organisation and the president has to
make his decisions and we certainly shouldn’t interfere into any of those
decisions. I think he has a vision about where he wants to have the FIA and
if part of that is a change of organisation, we need to respect it. As for
Shaila-Ann, she was at the FIA before she joined us. She was chief executive
officer of one of the largest sports agencies before and what the positive
is of having Shaila-Ann in this position, she’s one about governance and
transparency. She’s a lawyer and I think this is something which we have
always criticised in the past that things weren’t always as transparent and
as clear for the teams. I think this is one of the key topics that she will
be trying to implement and that is good news for all of the teams.
MB: As Toto said, I think we enjoyed the collaboration with Peter. He was
always very transparent, I think fair between teams and rational in the way
he was moving on with the topics and the subject, he certainly had a lot of
competencies and experience, but as Toto said, I think that there is a new
organisation or reorganisation within the FIA, it’s down to the new
president to move on, to decide his own team and we fully respect the
choices. So I think in that we are accepting and somehow even looking at the
future trying to make sure that we have properly collaborating and making
sure that the FIA becomes stronger and stronger.
Now, on the concerns of Shaila-Ann, yes, certainly it’s a concern. I think
she is a great person. She’s got a lot of experience. She will certainly be
capable of doing the job, I’m pretty sure of that. It’s a concern, but it’s
only a concern. I think it’s down to them to make sure that there will be no
conflicts of interest at all, to behave properly and it’s down to the
president to ensure it and I have trust that they will do it. As Ferrari,
it’s a concern but pretty sure that we will… through the behaviours, though
the decisions they will prove it’s a wrong concern.
Q: (Aaron Decker – Racing News 365) Toto, you said before that porpoising is
costing you a lot on the straight. Are you also afraid that maybe the engine
is less strong this year than Ferrari and engine of Red Bull?
TW: I think our engine guys made a great job in understanding how we can
optimise the software and the deployment of the power unit since the
beginning of the year. So our problem here is not the engine, we have a car
that is that is too draggy so the drivers made the comment that it seems
like we are having a parachute behind the car. So we need to, I think,
between the draggy car, and the bottoming, this is the main effect that we
are seeing here on the straight. In Barcelona we had a big rear wing and the
car was pretty stable on the straight and we were among the quickest, but
there's never one thing and certainly the engine is not the area that I
would want to point at that stage.
Q: (Jon Noble – motorsport.com) Mattia, the post-race protest in Monaco,
were you satisfied with FIA’s interpretation of the pit lane exit rules? And
do you now have any safety concerns that drivers can now flirt with a line
that beforehand had a very strict limit on it?
MB: We discussed before, I think there have been some inconsistency in
decisions. Other things, this is one of the decisions with which we are not
happy. We made the protests, I think we knew what would have been the
output, but I think it was right for us to protest just to show at least
that we were not in agreement with the decision at the time, and still we
believe it was not the right decision. And as a matter of fact, they had to
change the Race Director notes here in in Baku. They had to change the pit
entry. I think they are already starting discussing maybe we should change
back the international sporting code to make it right. So overall, I think
that type of, let me say, discussions, actions, show that there was
certainly an inconsistency in Monaco. Now that’s the way they decided, we
will accept and we are accepting, as matter of fact, we even didn't make any
appeal. It was nothing against Red Bull, honestly. I think it's a fair fight
between the two teams at the moment. Happy to move on with the fair fights.
It was more for us to show to FIA that, at the moment, we are unhappy with
the type of decisions they are taking, knowing that the output would have
been negative.
Q: (Dieter Rencken – Racing News 365) I noticed a slight difference in
terminology between Toto’s answer about the salary situation and Mattia’s.
Toto used use the word salary allowance, whereas Mattia spoke about a salary
cap. Regardless of whether it's what the top three or the drivers only or
whatever, my understanding is that there would actually be an allowance
within an overall budget cap for the drivers and that teams would be allowed
to pay the drivers over and above that, if they so wished. Could you comment
on that, please?
MB: I can start. I think you're right. I was wrong myself in calling it cap,
I should have called it allowance, because this is the right way to approach
at least the exercise. The solution you are trying to describe I think is
one of the solution we discussed but is not the solution we at least so far
agreed because things that, as I said before, there is not an easy solution.
So it will be an allowance in case but still many discussion will need to be
in place and it will take time.
TW: Yeah, clearly, just repeat what Mattia said, it's not a short-term
thing. Contracts need to be respected. And clearly, in the US American
Leagues, the team owners, the management can decide where to deploy the
salaries. They have a squad of 80 or 90 people and you can still decide to
go for a big superstar and out-pay all the other top people in the other
teams. So the allowance is certainly one of the possible solutions going
forward, so that the team can decide where it wants to deploy the
investment.
PART TWO
TEAM REPRESENTATIVES
Tom McCULLOUGH (Aston Martin), Guillaume DEZOTEUX (AlphaTauri), Mario ISOLA
(Pirelli)
Q: Tom, we're going to start with you. Let's talk updated cars, first of
all. Aston have been using the updated car for a couple of races now, how's
progress?
Tom McCULLOUGH: We've been updating the car actually race on race but the
bigger updates as you say, the sidepod and the diffuser quite visible in
Barcelona. We've now been through the Barcelona race weekend, Monaco and a
Friday here in Baku; three very different tracks which asked very different
things of the car. I think what we've seen with the continuous development
we've been bringing to the track is that we've got a car that's a bit more
workable. We can use it in wider operating windows. And that just means we
can just focus on optimising the car in a more traditional way at a race
weekend, getting the most out of the tyres, understanding the grip, limited
content versus apparent limited content, getting the right set-up on the
car. It's a bit more back to normal. At the start of the year, we were
heavily dominated by certain characteristics which meant that we were pinned
from a set-up side of things. So it's a lot more fun, a lot easier. Still
plenty of work to do.
Q: And how much potential does this car have?
TM: I think potential is always going to be there for everyone up and down
the grid at the moment. It's such new regulations. We started the year (in
a) certain direction, we’ve slightly changed but all the developments that
have been coming to the track and are coming to the track, are encouraging
going forwards. But everyone… you know, nobody stands still, Tom, so we're
going to be trying to push as hard as we can do and get as competitive as we
can.
Q: Now you've said already that you were developing the car race on race but
of course the big upgrade came in Barcelona. How has all of that affected
your ability to develop the car going forward, given the cost cap and all
those restrictions?
TM: The cost cap’s a very real thing for everyone now, so everything we're
doing, we have to look at it from a bang-for-buck side of things, something
the team was obviously used to doing for many years in the old days. And
we’ve really had to get back into that. We'd set aside a certain amount of
development budget, knowing that with such new regulations, there would be
potential to really develop the car. And we're now in the process of
developing as hard as we can do, back at the factory and just deciding which
of the bits and when is it right to bring them to the track to help us be
more competitive.
Q: Let's throw it back to Monaco now. It went very well, particularly for
Sebastian. If we just focus on that, in the context of him, having worked
with the team for 18 months, was that one of his best performances?
TM: I think the first two or three races a year ago were a little bit hard
for him getting used to us and we had such a difficult time actually in
pre-season testing when he hardly got to use the car. So we suddenly turned
up in Bahrain at the first race and that was very tough for him but after
three or four races, I actually think it was Monaco last year when he really
got into his swing, it was his first… I feel really comfortable, off we go.
He's always been strong on street circuits, here as well. Sat on the podium
many times as you know. He's been very comfortable in the team, I'd say sort
of from midway through last year and he absolutely loves working in the
team. I think he thrives in the environment and really enjoy working with
him.
Q: Now, slightly left field question, but we've seen a shift in some of the
intra team rivalries this year, at Red Bull Racing for example, where Sergio
Pérez has made a step forward relative to his team-mate, Max Verstappen.
Have you seen something similar at Aston Martin? Do these cars suit one of
your drivers more than the other?
TM: I think both our drivers actually have pretty similar requirements for
the car, which is quite useful. It's interesting you touch on Sergio. We
worked with him for many years and you know a very, very talented driver,
but you suddenly go into a team like Red Bull, with Max Verstappen as your
team-mate, it must be pretty daunting. But I'm really happy to see him
slowly building those relationships which are key to understanding how to
get the most out of yourself, the team around you, the car and I think he's
just going to go from strength to strength, it's going be great for us all
to watch.
Q: But within Aston Martin, you don't see a shift either way between Lance
and Seb?
TM: I think if you look at the numbers, last year the amount of time the
guys scored points, how close they were in qualifying, we're seeing that
again this year. Obviously Sebastian had a bit of a difficult start, missing
the first two races, but when actually weekends they are close to each
other, often within a 10th in qualifying. For the moment we're pretty happy
with how things are going.
Q: Thank you, Tom. I'm sure we'll hear more from you later. Guillaume coming
to you now. Your car has shown good pace this year, yet points haven't
necessarily followed. How would you sum up the opening 1/3 of this season?
Guillaume DEZOTEUX: It's been a difficult start to the season for us. The
car pace is definitely worth more than the points we have so far. The first
three races of the season we had quite a lot of bad luck, with almost every
time a safety car coming out just after our pit stop in the race. So that's
not really much you can do about. In Imola we had a strong weekend, also in
Miami. A couple of mistakes but generally we've been more competitive.
Barcelona has been challenging. The track condition, the very hot track temp
was something that didn't really suit our package, and that we need to
improve. And since Monaco and I think here in Baku, the car showed good
performance. In the twisty, low-speed corners, we have quite a good
mechanical grip, we found a way to make the car comfortable for the drivers,
so they're able to push it to the limit to get close to the walls. So
hopefully this weekend, we can put it together and bring home some good
points.
Q: How much of a disappointment was Monaco, given the mechanical grip that
you've just talked about?
GD: Monaco was a very disappointing result for all of us. Obviously, we've
been fast in all three free practice sessions and we made a mistake in
Quali. We couldn't we couldn't pass through Q1 and from there on it has been
all very, very difficult. Obviously the race conditions starting from the
back, even if the car pace was good, it was never possible to really catch
up with the group in front.
Q: Now you are Head of Vehicle Performance at AlphaTauri. How different of
these 2022 cars to work on compared to what we had before?
GD: They are very different, both in terms of aerodynamic characteristics,
but also in terms of set-up. Also, the cars are quite a bit heavier, they
are bouncing quite a lot, as you can all witness. And obviously in terms of
set-up, the compromises are always very difficult to find. And in the tight
midfield in which we compete, obviously small differences are making big
steps into the final position. So, we are constantly chasing this compromise
between making a car a little bit maybe easier to drive against a car which
extracts the absolute performance from the aerodynamics. And this compromise
changes on a track-by-track basis and obviously all our focus is on
extracting this best compromise.
Q: Final one from me. Yuki sits ahead of Pierre in the world championship
standings, in what areas do you see Yuki taking a step forward this year?
GD: So Yuki took a big step forward compared to last year, he has more
experience, he knows the tracks. He knows his engineers and mechanics. So
the relationship is improving constantly. I think it's a very difficult and
challenging championship for the young drivers. There are little
opportunities for testing. The winter test is very busy. And there are a lot
of engineering targets for understanding about the car. So it's difficult to
dedicate time to the driver and let him learn about the car and don't change
it too much. So I think this conflicts a little bit with the rookie driver
discovering the tracks and the cars. So for sure he is building up from last
year a lot and now he's able to be more consistent. His feedback has
improved a lot. His engineers understand better what he needs to go fast.
And it got closer to Pierre, which is very positive because it's also
pushing Pierre. So I'm really happy with the with this situation now.
Q: Thank you very much. And we'll hear more from you in a minute. Mario,
thank you for waiting. Now Guillaume talked about bouncing there. What
effect does this bouncing have on these 18-inch tyres?
Mario ISOLA: It is an additional load on tyres, so that is there when we
prepare our prescriptions, but unfortunately something that is not visible
in the simulations that are coming from the team so race by race, we try to
understand how this bouncing is affecting the tyres. It’s part of our job
and there is a clear additional load as I said.
Q: Now, last weekend Monaco, this weekend Azerbaijan, next weekend Canada,
and all with the softest tyres in the range. Can you just tell us a little
bit about how hard it is to adapt the tyres to these three different tracks?
MI: You know we have a range of five compounds and we have to choose the
best three, or the most suitable three compounds, for each event. Clearly we
are talking about different tracks, different characteristics. All the three
tracks are not very severe in terms of lateral load on the tyres. The
asphalt is quite smooth. That's why our choice was on the on the soft side
of the range, but they have different characteristics. So for sure, Monaco
is a unique circuit where you should need a specific compound for this
street circuit. But we cannot develop a specific compound for it. In Baku, I
believe it’s a sensible choice, as well as Montreal. They are a bit more
similar. with long straights, traction and braking is required. Obviously in
Baku we have much higher speed, but at the end of the day that's the choice
for the three races.
Q: And can you tell us a little bit about what we learnt in Friday practice
yesterday? And do you have any concerns over the tires given what happened
last year?
MI: Nothing unexpected, I can say that we decided to raise the rear pressure
by one psi because the telemetry data we receive after P2 are showing an
increased severity compared to the simulation, so obviously we can react
with the pressure. We had a little bit of abrasion, depending on teams and
drivers. I believe that all the three compounds are working well. We don't
have a lot of data on the hard because teams were a lot more focused on the
medium and the soft. I'm expecting a one stop race. So they need to
understand which are the limits of these two compounds. Also the timing of
the race is different with FP1, FP3 and the race at the same time, that is
something that is not happening in a normal race weekend. So I believe the
teams in FP3 have the chance again to test the tyres also with a view to the
race, not just the qualifying.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Jon Noble – Motorsport.com) To Mario, two questions for you. First of
all, after Monaco there were some quite critical remarks from Sebastian
Vettel and Jos Verstappen and about the wet tyres saying they were too hard,
didn't perform as well as wet tyres should. Were those comments justified?
Are you satisfied with the performance of the wets? And secondly, the tyre
pressure raise this weekend. There has been a little bit of a trend recently
for pressures to creep up. Is this a result of teams playing around with
pressures? Is it a result of the simulation prediction not being in line and
is it having an impact on the competitive performance of the relative teams?
MI: OK, starting from the wet tyres. Wet tyres are always difficult to
understand. I believe that Monaco is not the right track to make a proper
assessment of the wet tyre. You know that we have only one compound for wet
and one compound, one product for the intermediate tyre. And it has to work
everywhere, in 23, 23 different circuits. So we have to find the best
compromise. In addition, we don't have a lot of opportunities to test the
wetter intermediate tyres. We recently ran a test with Ferrari in Fiorano.
At the moment it’s the only test that is scheduled for this year in order to
develop a better product for next year. We are working together with the FIA
and the teams to find additional availabilities from the teams. But if we
don't have the possibility to test the tyres, we don't have the possibility
to develop the tyres. So, I would first of all like to wait for other wet
races to understand if and where we have to develop this product. Also, if
you remember the pre-season testing Barcelona, we decided to wet the track
for half a day to give the possibility to the teams to test the new product
and there was a very little running on the extreme wet tyre, they were more
focused on the intermediate. So to come to an end of this answer, we need to
test, otherwise we cannot develop a new tyre for the future, and that we
need to properly assess the performance of the wet tyre to react to that.
The second question about the pressure. We have a new product, we have new
cars. Last year we were testing with the mule cars that were obviously
different and also developing the downforce in a different way. That's why
last year with the mule cars we used lower pressure compared to this year.
Now we have simulations coming from the teams, the cars are quite faster. If
you compare the lap times from last year to this year, in general, they are
not as much slower than one second per lap. That means that the performance
is quite good. Consider that the teams are uploading their simulations with
a target of the performance at the end of the year, so we are already closer
to the end, the estimated end-of-year performance. Our system to define the
prescriptions is quite robust. We are using the same system that we have
used in the past. But it's applied to the new products and the new package.
That's why you can find different pressure from last year to this era. I
fully understand that after what happened last year here in Baku a lot of
people were focused on the delta pressure here in Baku, but if you compare
Monaco, we had an increase of pressure in Monaco on a low severity circuit
and that is a consequence of the new package and the new product. So we
define the pressure always in the same way. I don't believe that is
affecting specifically one team or another team, it’s one psi difference to
compensate this additional severity that we have seen in the telemetry data
from yesterday. You had another bit of a question? No. OK.
Q: (Edd Straw – The Race ) For Tom. Now you've got into normal running with
this car and you've understood it a bit, can you give a bit of an overview
of its strengths and weaknesses? What are the limitations you're currently
doing battle with?
TM: We've tried it three very different tracks so far, so we're still
learning is the honest answer. I think we've got a wider operating window
that we can set the car up in, which you really needing to go between
Barcelona, which has obviously got a lot of high speed, grip-limited
content, and then you go to Monaco and here, where the circuit efficiency is
the biggest difference, there's a lot more low-speed content here. So, I
think it just gives us a bit more freedom. We can just move the car around a
bit and we're not just pinned to a certain point because of certain issues.
So we can start making the trays that we used to make in the past a bit, a
little bit, as Guillaume was saying, tuning what you've got really. So it's
back to being a bit more of a normal car with an operating window that we
can work with.
Q: (Jon Noble – Motorsport.com) To the two team representatives, we’re a
third of the way through the season now and the porpoising appears as bad
this weekend as it’s been throughout the start the season. Are teams
improving on it? Do you think we'll get to a point where it's dialled out
completely or is it something that's inherent this concept of Karma to live
with for years to come?
GD: So it's a difficult topic, very, very complicated, as you know. We have
not been dramatically affected by it, maybe in the beginning in winter
testing when we were scanning a wide range of set-up direction, but it has
not impacted us much to be honest. It's obviously a bit of a moving target
and we can see across the grid that some cars are more affected than others,
but from our perspective, is not really a main focus for now.
TM: Yeah, not really too much more to add. I think what is clear is that a
lot of our development tools, and I don't think we're unique in this, didn't
really show that this was going to be as much of a problem as it was. And
now it's a matter of developing your tools to better replicate that to be
able to do a better job. We've got a set of regulations, we're trying to
make the car as fast as possible within those regulations and we think most
teams can totally stop the bouncing, porpoising, but everyone wants to go
fast as well. And that's just a compromises we're playing.
Q: Has the situation improved with the upgraded car?
TM: Yeah, I think throughout the year we've been improving that, but we're
definitely in a better place now than we were at the start of the year.
Q: (Dieter Rencken – Racing News 365) Tom, I've heard the team say a few
times that you'd budgeted for the B version or the alternate version or
whatever you'd like to call it. But it's not simple household economics that
if you spend money in an area, regardless of whether it's budgeted or not,
you have less to spend elsewhere on upgrades on people or facilities or
whatever?
TM: We have a budget in all areas of the team, as always, and as you're
saying some of them are to do with a budget cap too. Development in Formula
1 with such new regulations is always very important, so we set aside our
usual development budget, we then obviously reviewed that with the
regulations, we reviewed that with the cost cap and you're forever seeing
how you can increase that development budget, because ultimately we're all
here to go as fast as we can do. Throughout the development phase of the
car, in our simulation tools, wind tunnel, CFD, the simulator we sort of had
quite a few different threads and we had come to the conclusion that a
certain way was the way to go. Once we started to commit to that it's just
about looking at the value engineering you can do with the money you've got
to get the fastest car to the track as soon as possible and keep developing
that. When you bring updates to the track, you learn more and more as well.
When we first went to Barcelona and the pre-season testing that wasn't
called testing, but you know the one I mean, we learned a lot. We learned
that our tools weren't giving us a good enough information and we had to
probe those harder, ask some difficult questions and improve and that's
engineering. That's the fun side of engineering to be honest. |