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TEAM REPRESENTATIVES: Andrew
SHOVLIN (Mercedes), Xevi PUJOLAR (Kick Sauber), Pierre WACHÉ (Red Bull
Racing), Dan FALLOWS (Aston Martin)
Q: Dan, with you, if we could.
You've just been back-to-backing old parts with new parts in FP1. What did
you learn?
Dan FALLOWS: Well, we learned that it's extremely hot and very busy, which
is kind of what we were expecting coming into this weekend. But yeah, we've
done a comparison across cars with some new parts. We're very much focused
on trying to sort of get a better balance, a more consistent car with this
one, so it's all about data gathering at this point, and then we really sort
of go back, crunch the numbers, and see where we get to.
Q: This is a very different layout, isn't it, compared to the last three
tracks in particular that we've been to? It's very different temperatures.
What does that mean for Aston Martin?
DF: Well, there's been certainly some tracks that suit us better than
others. We saw that in Silverstone, for example, it sort of played to our
strengths to some extent. Tracks like this, honestly, is not necessarily one
of our strongest. So we go into the weekend trying to see what we can make
of it, acknowledging that we have these limitations, but really trying to
get those gains on the car, get those improvements in the balance
characteristic and give the drivers what they want to be able to perform at
either circuits like this or Silverstone.
Q: Dan, can we talk a little bit more about those limitations? Because
Fernando spoke yesterday about the car being unpredictable to drive, that he
lacks confidence in it. Why is it proving so difficult to tame?
DF: These cars, with these regulations, they're very complicated ground
effect cars. They're very sensitive to things like ride heights and ambient
temperatures and tyres and everything else. And that does cause us a lot of
issues in terms of where we want to add downforce or to add performance to
the car. It's not as simple as just adding downforce and everything comes to
you. There's always some kind of characteristic of the aerodynamic package
which comes along with that. And it's just a question of making sure that as
you dial up the performance, that you don't sort of introduce any of these
either instabilities or characteristic changes. And I think we've seen that
generally things tend to work the way we expect, up to a point, but then
they're not always things that suit the driver or suit the characteristics
of the car. So it's a constant sort of battle to try and improve the
performance in both ways, really.
Q: And are you confident that you can navigate your way out of the current
issues in the remainder of 2024?
DF: That's absolutely the target. I mean, we are working absolutely flat out
on this. I mean, the parts that we brought here this weekend have been the
result of an enormous effort from the people back at base. They're really
working. The lights really never go out at the technology campus at the
moment. And it's a testament to the fact that everybody is hugely motivated
in getting on top of these things. But obviously, you know, it's an ongoing
process and we'll keep sticking at it until we've fixed our issues.
Q: You mentioned the technology campus. There have been some high profile
signings in recent weeks. Of course, Bob Bell joined earlier in the year,
but now Andy Cowell is going to come on board. Enrico Cardile is going to
come on board. When everyone is in position, Will the team have everything
it needs to build a race-winning car?
DF: I think the thing for us is we're a team that's grown incredibly quickly
and we're carrying on growing. And we can identify, as we get into a state
which is closer to being able to challenge for race wins and championships,
we can start to see as we're on that journey that there are gaps in our
expertise or where certain people could bring something to us. And with the
announcements of Andy Cowell recently and Enrico Cardile, these are people
with a huge amount of experience. The fact that we're able to attract talent
like that to the team just, I think, is a testament to just what an exciting
project it is. And they can really see something and the potential in it,
which is why we're excited to have them along.
Q: Still room for someone called Adrian Newey?
DF: I mean, I worked with Adrian for a long time, as has my colleague next
to me. You know, he's a great asset to any team. Who knows where he's going
to end up.
Q: Alright. Dan, thank you very much. Pierre, let's come to you now. The
RB20 looks different here. What have you learned about it in FP1?
Pierre WACHÉ: I think the cover of the engine is cool! We were able to do
some laps. It's already a good sign. I think it's a long process to learn
about the package for sure. P1 should not be enough to make a conclusion.
But we learned that it's going in the right direction at the moment. We
didn't see any black flag on the package. That is already a good aspect. And
we will continue to learn during P2.
Q: What about driver feedback? What was Max saying about the car?
PW: As you said, for Dan, you know, the layout is massively different
compared to the last three races we've done. It's difficult to make a
compare of it. But, you know, Max was… No surprise of what the issue is in
terms of car balance, how to go quicker. It's not massively related to the
package. It's more an overall issue with the temperature, how the tyre works
and what the balance is. But at the moment, there's no black flag.
Q: Pierre, the chasing pack is getting closer. How much rests on this
upgrade being a good step forward?
PW: We will see. But yeah, it's clearly for us, you know, some part of the
package was a plan for after shutdown and the people at the factory were
able to push to make some aspect of it, for one car only. But, you know, it
was a push from the factory to make it three weeks earlier. I think it's
very important for us, yeah.
Q: OK, look, a final one from me. Checo Pérez, just 15 points from the last
six races. Why do you think he's been struggling so much in recent races?
PW: If I knew, I would fix it. But it's difficult to say. I think it’s
partly us, for sure. And it's what we have to try to help him to extract the
potential of the car. I have some feedback from him. We have some feedback.
We try to help him. And, you know, the point is not only reflecting to how
he feels in the car. That is something that… Sometimes he’s unlucky, you
know, it’s what happened in some quali that could affect the overall result
of the race. But, yeah, I think we are trying to help him to have a better
result for the next races before shutdown.
Q: Does he lack confidence in the car?
PW: It's difficult to say, I'm not a driver, but It looks like the car
response is not what he likes. That is something that we have to address on
our side.
Q: OK, thank you, Pierre. I'm sure there'll be more questions for you in a
minute. Xevi, let's come to you. No talk of football. Now, you've got lots
of new parts on your car as well this weekend. What have you learned during
FP1?
Xevi PUJOLAR: Yeah, we've got quite a bit of a lot of parts with Valtteri
this race weekend and for FP1 has been just getting some data. Everything at
the moment looks within our expectations, but still is, as you said, it’s
early. Only one FP1 session, very hot conditions, so do some more work in
FP2, but at the moment everything looks as expected so far.
Q: And we're returning to the scene of a very strong qualifying performance
by both cars last year, P5, P7. How confident are you that they can repeat
that when we get to the business end of the weekend?
XP: Yeah, last year here, the one-timed lap was good, then we had some
issues in the race, so, for sure, we want to be performing at the one-timed
lap as well, but the main target is the race and to achieve the points. For
some reason, last year, the performance was very strong at the one-timed
lap, as we said, I think this year everything is changing, or from race to
race, everything is changing quite a lot. So we have to see from FP1 now, we
can say that lap times, yeah, we can be there in FP1, but that will change
quite a lot through the weekend. So we just keep focused and we'll try to
optimise the car. We've got different packages across the cars as well. So
get the best of both of them and see what we can achieve in qualifying and
in the race. That's the main target.
Q: Xevi, can you tell us a little bit more about this car? Maybe reflect on
the opening 12 races because you've yet to get any points on the board. What
are its strengths? What are its weaknesses? Why do you feel it hasn't
happened yet for the team?
XP: Yeah, I think probably everything has been very close in terms of
performance amongst teams. Maybe the performance is not too far away, but we
struggled to consolidate with the results. At the beginning of the season,
we were a bit better in terms of quali and race performance, but we had some
other issues in terms of reliability with the pit stops and some other
reliability issues. Once we fixed that, then maybe the competitors… It looks
like the competitors moved one step further forwards in terms of
performance, but everything remains very, very close. We’re struggling more
in, say, low- and medium-speed corners. we were about there in the high
speed, struggling more towards the top teams but at one point even the
midfield seemed to move more performance in the higher-speed corners and
then we started to have a bit of issues as well with bouncing, drivers
losing a bit of confidence. So, working with the car trying to find a
configuration that is more suitable for the driving for the confidence and
to extract more performance. And that's the aim of that package that we've
got with Valtteri as well, to have a bit of a scope to develop for the
second part of the season on that section.
Q: Good luck with that. Thank you, Xevi. Shov, thank you for waiting. So
you've had two consecutive wins. What chance making it three in a row here
in Hungary?
Andrew SHOVLIN: Well, it's probably a bit of a long shot. Silverstone
definitely suited the car. It's a more front-limited track, and it was
cooler conditions. The thing where we've still got the kind of question mark
on performance is rear-limited circuits in hot conditions. It's going to be
very hot on Sunday. So that's what we're working on. But I wouldn't put us
as favourites here.
Q: So we're going to learn quite a lot about the car and its ultimate
competitiveness here in Hungary.
AS: Yeah, I mean, it's a good circuit to test that. And when you're trying
to focus on one area of performance, if that's rear overheating, the best
place to learn and understand your issues is a circuit that exacerbates that
problem, even if we'd prefer all of them be like Silverstone. But they're
not, and it's a good place for us to work on that problem.
Q: Tell us a little bit about the development rate that you guys have had.
It's been rapid. Have you been surprised by the progress that you've been
able to make with this car?
AS: I wouldn't say we've been surprised by it. We set ourselves some very
ambitious performance targets to make sure we were competitive enough to
qualify on pole and win races by the end of the year. And then we put in
some ambitious plans to meet that in stages with various updates. what has
been brilliant to see is just how well the whole organisation has responded
to that challenge to try and get us back towards the front and what we have
done has delivered. It's nice when you're in a situation where all your
update kits, all the mechanical changes that we've made to the car have done
what we hoped for and it's reassuring that we're sort of seeing that slow
and steady move back towards the front.
Q: How much more is there to come from this car?
AS: Well, we're flat out developing it. You don't know what you're going to
be able to bring right to the end of the year because you haven't done that
work, but more of what we've been doing will be coming over the next few
races, drip feeding it in more than going for big packages, but the mid-term
future is quite exciting still. Lots of areas that we're working on and
hopefully those will come through and bring us the lap time that we hope.
Q: Final one from me. Can we just talk about George Russell? He's been on
pole for two of the last four races. He's out-qualified Lewis Hamilton 10-2
this year. Has George stepped it up this year?
AS: Well, I mean, George has always set a very high bar in qualifying. And
as soon as he was in F1, he was impressing. Even in the Williams, he was
doing some pretty impressive qualifying sessions. So we know that he's very
quick. Lewis hasn't disguised the fact that Saturdays were his tough day.
He's struggled with this whole generation of car, really, not suiting his
style. He's been working on how he drives. But we had a huge amount of work
trying to get the car to: a) be quicker – it just hasn't been quick enough –
but also with a handling balance that the drivers can actually attack the
lap on Saturday. So we've made progress. Recently, George has outqualified
Lewis by some fairly fine margins. So it's great for the team that Lewis is
back up there and he'll be pushing on. But yeah, we'll keep working on that.
And I'm sure that we'll see hopefully some more Lewis pole positions as
well.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Jon Noble – Motorsport.com) Andrew, CrowdStrike had a problem this
morning. Infrastructure went down. A lot of IT systems around the world kind
of crashed. We saw some images of your pit wall with the blue screen of
death from this morning. How disruptive was it? Did it drag on into the
session? Is there any impact going forwards from here?
AS: Well, we've had great support from them and all our partners. There was
a bit of work that we had to do. We've got a lot of computers around the
garage and in pit walls and things here, and those all needed updating, but
we've worked through that. The impact in FP1 was minimal, if not nil. So, as
I said, it created a bit of work, but we're back where we need to be now.
Q: (Carlo Platella – FormulaPassion.it) Question for Andrew Shovlin. About
the development of the car, was it purely aerodynamic or have there been
also some changes to the mechanics?
AS: Well, we've been working on the mechanical package as well. We're trying
to focus on every area that delivers performance because you need your wind
tunnel to be delivering, but it's only so hard you can make that work. Some
of the differentiating steps are when you can bring a package that isn't
just the aero development that everyone's trying to do. So we've made good
gains there, and it's a reflection that the whole team's working well
together. All the different functions of performance are all trying to work
together to make sure that we can bring updates that do deliver what we
need.
Q: (Jannik Sauer – Watson.de) A question for whoever has an opinion on it.
The drivers yesterday, they talked about Olympic karting. And with this
being the last race before the tournament starts, I would like to hear your
opinion on that.
DF: It's a great idea. Absolutely great idea. I mean, if you've ever been
karting with a Formula 1 driver, they're absolutely, they're like a
different level. And to watch them going around a karting circuit, I think
would be fantastic. So if we have an Olympic karting event with Formula 1
drivers in it, yeah, I'd watch that, definitely.
AS: I'd definitely watch it, yeah.
PW: It would not be the car issue then!
XP: I would watch it as well, yeah, for sure.
Q: (Andrew Benson – BBC Sport) Shov, you just mentioned something about
Lewis's style not suiting these cars or this year or whatever. Could you
explain a bit more? Because he's always been considered to be very adaptable
in his driving style.
AS: I mean, it's particularly he struggled on the single lap. So his long
run pace is always there. And that's been really useful. It's more just the
way that he wants to attack a corner. When you do that, then the car would
snap to oversteer. You start to build tyre temperature. So most of our work
has been trying to give him a car that you can drive the very attacking
style, extract the lap time out of it without it just sort of breaking away
on the way in and catching him by surprise.
Q: (Luke Smith – The Athletic) Pierre, Max has talked about the importance
of this update in terms of setting the tone for the rest of the season. How
tricky has it been this year both with the closing competition and this
update was fast tracked for this weekend but also the diminishing returns
you're getting into with this car – Christian spoke about it over the winter
– and obviously the less aero time as well you've got compared to others.
PW: You summarised quite well our difficulties for us. We still have a
capacity to develop the car, otherwise we will not bring the update. And
clearly the fact that the others are closer and closer, it's a big aspect
that we are pushing even more to bring the update quicker. After, as
mentioned by the colleagues here, the performance is not only coming from
the overall downforce gain. It's coming from how the driver is able to
extract it and how it affects the balance. Then also, we are pushing also in
this area. That is a big part of it, and we still have some room of
improvement on this aspect.
Q: (Chris Medland – Racer) It's a question for everyone except Dan, because
you covered this this morning, Dan. Just talking about upgrades and the
development cycle for this year, with it being so close and seeing the
upgrade impact we'll have, and then 2026 on the horizon and the work you can
do at the start of next year, do you see yourselves bringing upgrades later
into this season than normal and maybe bringing new parts in the final few
races of the season? Does anything change compared to a normal season?
PW: It's for sure the fact that the regulation stays the same and is quite
mature now in terms of overall concept of the car could affect this aspect.
However, you still have the car to build for next year. And your capacity
and the budget cap is limited to what you can do. I'm sure if we find
something and we want to double check how it's going on the track, and if
the fight in the championship is very tight, for sure you will bring the
update. But yeah, it’s pushing you more, but after you still have some
limitation.
XP: Yeah, from our side, for sure we'll keep pushing until the end of the
season, especially with the situation that we are at the moment. And with
the upgrade that we've got now, we've got the scope to keep developing in
the second part of the season, yes.
AS: Well, we'll be reviewing the situation, see where we are by the break,
but we've got plans for updates that run into that second bit of the season.
Just where you position that resource split, we'll see how the
championship's going and what we can achieve. But certainly everyone's going
to be updating until we get into that final block of flyaways, I think.
Q: (Edd Straw – The Race) One for Pierre. There have been suggestions that
the bodywork specs you've got will be switched according to track
characteristics and conditions. So is that correct? Will we see you
switching between the new spec and the old spec in the upcoming races? And
if that is correct, can you explain the rationale for this, please?
PW: It's a possibility. It's what we verify during P1, P2. And based on, as
you just mentioned, if the cooling level requirement and track
characteristic will push us to change, yes, we will. As everything, all the
parts on the car we have are trying to be the same as all the other parts we
changed between track. We try to make the quickest car. We try, I say, it
doesn't mean we are achieving. At each track, then it could be a
possibility, yes. We don't know yet.
Q: (Ian Parkes – New York Times) Pierre, another one for you. With regard to
Checo, you said that the car response was not what he likes at the moment.
Can you explain what has happened to the car over the last six races
compared to the first six when he was performing reasonably well and what
you now have to do to that car to get it back into the right window for him
to perform again?
PW: Yeah, it's what we suspect. It's difficult to have a right spot on it to
say it's coming from this area of the car. It's for sure that the more you
push the development of the car, the more the behaviour could start to be
tricky, it’s what you see from the others. I have no exact point where we
identify where the issue is for him compared to Max. But it's clearly that
the fact that the stability of the car could be improved for both drivers, I
suspect, will help him.
Q: (Christian Menath – Motorsport-magazin.com) Another one for you, Pierre.
With this generation of cars, we have heard very often engineers talking
about finding performance, but drivers are not able to extract the whole
performance. Now it looks like you're in this position for the first time
with this generation of cars. How did you change the approach for the
development for this package? Because I guess it's the first reaction to the
problem for you.
PW: I think we base on what we learn from the different seasons with this
type of car generation. And also, we use massively the simulation, to be
honest with you. The simulation will give us the direction of where we
should develop the car and how the characteristics should be to help the
driver. The driver in the loop simulator and the offline sim, for sure. But
it's a big part of it here.
Q: (Diletta Colombo – Automoto.it) With this generation of cars, do you
think that it's more difficult to bring effective upgrades to the car?
DF: Yes, I think it's a short answer. I think we've seen that with a lot of
people. It's not just ourselves. We've had issues in terms of putting
additional performance on the car and maintaining the same good
characteristics, good balance, ability to run the car at certain different
circuits, different ambient conditions. Yeah, we have found that difficult
to do that, to keep those good characteristics and to improve the overall
performance. I don't think there's any secret of that. I think any team that
says they have managed to do that consistently is probably... No, I'm not
going to say that! But I think generally it's something that we're fighting
with, and I think once you know that that's the case, it's really a question
of what are the most important things that you need to retain as you put
these improvements on the car. And then if you feel like you've degraded
something, how do you then attack that area and get it back to where you
want it to be? That's the really critical bit.
PW: And as Dan mentioned, you have a massive interaction between all the
elements of the car, especially aerodynamically with the restriction we
have. everything is linked together, that you have to update multiple parts
to achieve something interesting.
XP: Yeah, I will say that you need to be quite cautious when you start to
push all the boundaries and also from what we see that some drivers can be
more or less sensitive to depending on where you end up running the car and
especially on the high-speed sections or how you could need to run
mechanically to extract the performance. This is areas that we need to be
more careful with this generation of cars.
AS: Well, yeah, just the rules meant there was a lot of extra learning that
you had to undertake as a team to properly understand how these cars work,
how you put performance on them. And over time, people are getting better at
doing that. But it's always easy to chase headline numbers and then end up
with problems like bouncing. I think everyone's facing that.
Q: (Ana Ofelia Cordera – Momentum Racing) My question goes to Dan. Fernando
said yesterday he's struggling with the car, and that he struggles not only
with one thing, but rather with a lot. As a driver, of course, you've got to
focus weekend by weekend, you know, like race-to-race and whatnot. But as a
team, are you guys focusing on this season, or are you already focusing in
2025? Because clearly the car has been declining ever since last year and
since the season started.
DF: So I think next year is an evolution of this year. The rules are not
changing for next year. So everything we learn from this year is relevant
for next year. And that's really what we're focusing on. As I said, the most
important thing is identifying areas where you can make the most performance
on a car and addressing those. And if you think they're going to deliver the
most lap time, then that's what you focus on first. And I think, you know,
the drivers are, we're very fortunate with our drivers. They're extremely
clear about what it is they need. And sometimes that's very helpful. That's
exactly what you want from them. And that's, you know, we've been asking
them, you know, the question as we go along, you know, what's your priority?
What's your highest priority? And how do we, How do we get on top of that?
It is sometimes difficult when you have general sort of balance
characteristics, sometimes to pin down what those priorities are. But with
their help, I think we've got a good steer on that. And this is about fixing
it.
Q: (Scott Mitchell-Malm – The Race) A question to Dan and Pierre. Just in
your experience and your time in Formula 1, I wonder if you could talk
through a little bit how technical structures and teams have evolved over
that time. How much more vast have they got? How much has that job changed
in your experience? What kind of feeds into the process now versus when you
started in Formula 1?
DF: Gosh, well, since I started, I mean, a lot of things have changed. We
weren't quite using slide rules, but it wasn't far away. Certainly drawing
boards were a lot more prevalent. But the structure has changed a lot over
the last 20 years in terms of just overall size. But just the focus on what
people are working on means that you have to structure yourselves very
differently. where we were before, there was, you know, a big lack of data
from the track, you know, that, that is an area that's really been a lot
more sophisticated now. And it's a lot easier to understand what your car is
doing on the circuit, particularly from an aerodynamic point of view, but
also in a lot of other areas. And that means that you then have different
demands on your technical structure and your engineers, we've obviously been
able to grow an awful lot more, particularly Aston Martin, we've grown an
awful lot in the last two years, just simply as a result of having the
correct level of budget to get yourself to the right size. And then more
recently, obviously the cost cap has meant that you've had to really focus
on, you know, where is the area that's going to pay the biggest dividends
for you. So there's been a huge amount of change. And I think in all
honesty, you know, it's still a little bit in flux. You know, I think people
are still learning about where is the best place to spend your chips and get
your engineers.
PW: I think the main change from what I saw was the level of expertise we
bring in the team. Before, the people were doing a broader area of working
field, and the skills were quite broad. Now, we employ people with a massive
expertise in a very detailed area. Then it affects the number of people you
have in the team compared to 20 years ago. but also how they work together,
then for sure the expertise overall in the team improves. But after, the
capability for the people to see a wider view of the car performance, how
the car is done, is diminished. Then the challenges for the people are
different. The challenge to work together is different and is more
challenging because the motivation, to put the staff together, for what the
people are doing, is more difficult. Then the structure of the team also
evolves with this kind of change of expertise for different areas. |