Heidfeld penalized with 3 spot loss after Quali


By BMW Sauber F1 Team
September 27 2008

Nick Heidfeld has been given a three-place grid demotion penalty for blocking Rubens Barrichello during Q1. That means Heidfeld will start from 9th place instead of 6th. The incident happened when Heidfeld was entering the pits, while Barrichello was ending his flying lap.

And what is more surprising is that in the other hadn Barrichello has been fined with 10.000€ for not using the deceleration zone when diving into the pits after being slowed down by Heidfeld.

As it was feared, the Singapore pit lane entry problem has not being solved yet, despite yesterday's modification, which meant a change in the line separating the racing track to the pit entry.

Heidfeld reactions to the penalty  at LINK

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Heidfeld penalized with 3 spot loss after Quali
Discussion started by BMW Sauber F1 (IP Logged), 27/09/2008 19:00
BMW Sauber F1
BMW Sauber F1
27/09/2008 19:00
Heidfeld penalized with 3 spot loss after Quali

Walsingham
Walsingham
27/09/2008 19:02
I hope BMW will appeal because this looks like most stupid verdict of the year - which is quite an achievement.

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Raid Phoenix
27/09/2008 19:04
Yeah, hope so too.

I'm amazed by the ability of FIA to invent new rules and penalties. SInce when there is a 3 place demotion? Wasn't it either 5 place loss of the best quali times removed?

Makes no sense, especially after all the complains about the pitlane entry and exit. In fact Nick had no place to go.

The penalty should go to Tilke, who designed the circuit.

Racing against the machine!

Scarletkatz
Scarletkatz
27/09/2008 19:09
I am so angry. (Sm95)

There was NOTHING he could do!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:09:27:19:10:49 by Scarletkatz.

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KAIN
27/09/2008 19:20
Idiots

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FormulaFan
27/09/2008 19:23
So you prefer +5 penalty to +3? LOL

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barteks
27/09/2008 19:34
Quote:
J-Raid
Yeah, hope so too.
I'm amazed by the ability of FIA to invent new rules and penalties. SInce when there is a 3 place demotion? Wasn't it either 5 place loss of the best quali times removed?

Sorry, no appeal here.

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Raid Phoenix
27/09/2008 19:40
Heidfeld's reaction at http://www.f1network.net/main/s491/st134052.htm

Quote:
Sorry, no appeal here

Another reason not to like FIA proceedings.

Wait, it says "practice sessions", not quali or race (which probably would be called in another way). Or does the word practice include quali?

Racing against the machine!

RA106
RA106
27/09/2008 19:42
to be honest i think most honda fans would agree with you who invents a circuit with the entrance and exit to the pits on the racing line nick had no where to go unless hes david blaine

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Raid Phoenix
27/09/2008 19:45
Heidfeld's Q&A at http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70947

Racing against the machine!

PsyM
PsyM
27/09/2008 20:11
That was a stupid penalty. Where the .... should he go? if the entry to the pits is in the racing line, then where is drivers who is driving into the pits supposed to go!?


stupid..

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redline
27/09/2008 20:14
 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:06:05:22:12:47 by redline.

zdzisio
zdzisio
27/09/2008 20:25
Quote:
J-Raid
The penalty should go to Tilke, who designed the circuit.


actually(surprise, surprise) he didn't

it was Kellogg Brown & Root

gturner
gturner
27/09/2008 22:31
I can't see how Heidfeld can be penalized either. Even if he had held the car tight to the inside of the circuit, Barrichello's line would have still been compromised.

As for the rule that was quoted, the interesting part is that it should have been applied to Trulli's infraction for driving against traffic on Friday, rahter than the fine which was imposed.

"Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you."-Jeremy Clarkson

wingman1961
wingman1961
27/09/2008 23:44
I hope Nick will gain those three position at the start. Good luck NICK!!!

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turboturtle
27/09/2008 23:57
seems fia wants to look impartial so it slaps penalties left, right and centre... (then again justice is blind, isn't she?)

regards tt

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barteks
28/09/2008 11:47
After watching the video I would say the penalty was right. Nick had enough time on the straight before the last corner to see Honda in his mirrors.

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Of course it doesn't change the fact, that the pit entry should be redesigned.

sessions
sessions
28/09/2008 12:11
Three more cars to pass is what it boils down to being.
At this stage lady luck will take over. Three places back may or may not work for him. If there is a first turn mess up he may avoid it. If it happens further back, he's could be toast.
If it rains, who's to say.
Does the three grid penalty allow him the privilege of changing his fuel load ?
At any rate its a pi$$ off that tends to deflate ones moral, but knowing Nick's consistency he'll bring her home. The big question, will it be in the points ?

Fingers crossed, Sessions

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