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Amid Chaos, Alonso 'stands out' - Klien


By Jay
May 15 2012

Former F1 driver Christian Klien, who has been reportedly working on Williams simulator, believes that Fernando Alonso stands out as the best driver of all in the chaotic current season, which has seen five different drivers winning the five races completed so far.

"It (2012) is very open," he said, "but for me Fernando Alonso stands out."

The twin world champion is on equal points with Sebastian Vettel of Red Bull, and well clear of Lewis Hamilton, who is trailing by eight points to the Spaniard.

"Alonso has an inferior car," Klien explained, "but he uses every single little opportunity.

"He is the most complete driver who gets the most out of the package he has."

Triple world champion Sir Jackie Stewart agrees that, among arguably the most competitive grid of drivers since the late 80s, Alonso is the standout performer.

"Right now we have the best generation of drivers we've had for a while," the famous Scot told the Spanish sports daily AS.

"Everyone talks about Vettel, who is a great driver, and also Hamilton of course, but there is also Button, Schumacher, Kimi - all champions.

"There are others like Webber who also have the quality to win, young drivers coming up, many of them are very good, but also it is true that Alonso is fantastic."

Asked why the Spaniard has not added a title to his tally since 2006, Stewart said: "The explanation is easy -- he hasn't had the luck to get the best car.

"Now he has one that isn't good, but it's in those circumstances that you see even more the quality that he has," said Stewart.

 

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15/05/2012 09:00
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PHP
15/05/2012 09:12
Well, true that, but I feel Button is having a few problems off late.

Really difficult to tell who will win.

If Barcelona is a track where the overall best car wins, so is Williams too in the fray now, or was it just a one off?

One race sees a team fastest, and in next they are struggling, totally weird.

I would tentatively put my money on Hamilton or Alonso to win this season if things remain as it is till the end.

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redline
15/05/2012 12:53
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PHP
One race sees a team fastest, and in next they are struggling, totally weird.

pirelli knows the answer

it is not all of a sudden f1 teams, engineers, mechanics, drivers cannot setup their cars properly

pirelli has all the teams data on tyre performance
they provide the tyres
then they tell you they want to make the races 'interesting' to entertain the audience

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tamotu
15/05/2012 18:13
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PHP
16/05/2012 09:50
Well, how can Pirelli possibly have team data?

Is it mandatory to share the data gathered on tyre to be shared with tyre suppliers?

If not, i doubt it. My theory is that Pirelli is getting different set of tyres every GP, in the sense, there is marked difference in same compounds that behaves differently, hence teams are confused. It is only my wild theory though grinning smiley

I wonder who has the better chance to win the championship? I feel Alonso and Hamilton, as i said earlier, because Ferrari and Mclaren are the teams that would develop the car faster during the season, and next up would be Vettel in Red Bull and then Rosberg in Merc and then may be Maldo's Williams.

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redline
16/05/2012 11:45
Pirelli says Mercedes has no extra tyre concerns in Bahrain

"We do have the benefit of seeing all the data from all the teams, and we felt Mercedes was going to be very competitive this year. I have gone on record as saying I would put money down on Michael Schumacher for victory this year, and I put him down to win in Malaysia, so that cost me 50.

[www.autosport.com]

isn't it too tempting? but if one consider this

Hembery: Pirelli open to change tyre philosophy if Formula 1 teams want it

"We were asked to come up with a certain approach, and that was agreed with teams," Hembery said. "The leader for the teams' views was actually Ross [Brawn], and he told us that Canada 2010 was the model they wanted and that is what we worked on.

"We would [be open to change] for the sport, but its not just the drivers it's the teams, the promoter. The team principals tend to be quite pragmatic and look at the bigger picture, and I would be very surprised if they asked us to do anything different.

[www.autosport.com]

the bigger picture is what is good for the sports f1 and its effect on the bottom line of teams' finances

tvstar
tvstar
16/05/2012 13:05
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redline
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PHP
One race sees a team fastest, and in next they are struggling, totally weird.

pirelli knows the answer

it is not all of a sudden f1 teams, engineers, mechanics, drivers cannot setup their cars properly

pirelli has all the teams data on tyre performance
they provide the tyres
then they tell you they want to make the races 'interesting' to entertain the audience


hmmmmm wow , very interesting thumbs down

I had same sort of argument with my friend last week, I said there is too much manipulation and fixing in cricket that I stopped following cricket his answer was he stopped following f1 long time back for the same reason



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PHP
16/05/2012 13:43
hmm, so the teams wanted Canada 2010 and now they cry, so who is to be blamed?

Also, yes, if Pirelli says they are having data, they should be having, but is this the real data or the full data that they are sharing with Pirelli? Teams are no less cunning.

Or, now, since they know that Pirelli might be manipulating, would teams be open for data sharing?

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redline
16/05/2012 16:15
Red Bull owner Dietrich Mateschitz says tyres have turned F1 into a lottery for teams

[www.autosport.com]

"But everyone has to learn F1 again. It has become a kind of lottery to find out the window in which a tyre works.

"And I do not believe this just happens on purpose to create more overtaking and tension in the races. I suppose no-one really understands these tyres."
# # #

except pirelli, back then, tyre supplier produced tyres to match the car, lately, the car has to be fine-tuned to match the tyres

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redline
21/05/2012 12:19
@tam, it appears i am not alone thinking something is not right with these pirelli tyres ( Q3 and tyres, ) but in fairness these tyres were requested/approved by the teams themselves

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